Hungarian parliament approved Finland's NATO membership

[Blondie]

The wartime strength of the Finnish army is 280000. Military training (6-11 months) has got 870000. We have in stock modern rifles for eveyone. All in all 2 million, but the count is limited by age and other reasons. Those 280000 are ready to take their position whatever it is, special forces or infantryman . We didn't apply the Nato membeship to get here US or Nato troops, but to secure the availability of weapons during crises. We pondered pros and cons. Obvious drawback is that as a member we are bound to protect Baltic states, but securing the availability of weapons and military intelligence are pros.

I mentioned that Ukraine is forced to fight by one hand. If Russia attacks a Nato member it is obvious that Russian military bases will be attacked too. I don't believe that the US nuke-umbrella gives us safety. Unfortunately those big five in the end of the 60th cheated us to agree the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty spitting straight ahead on the paper

2 million my ass. Do you think 2 million people, 50% of finnish population is able to front service? So a spoiled rich rainbow kid became a mass murder rambo in a minute? Okay it makes no sense to talking with you, you have no idea about the real world.

[Blondie]

There are no secrets behind of this either:

I have noticed that swedes are very good in one thing, this is the propaganda, a false pic of their country what they show for foreigners. 55% of swedes would die for Sweden? If this is really true, then why they dont do anything against these muslim gangs who terrorize the citizens? Simple question. Why they dont take their weapons to fight against muslims who are harrassing them?

In the Winter War the finnish army was less than 350000, (at this time finns were much more badass and patriotic) and now Lemmi fantasies about 2 million soldier. Sorry but i cant take you guys seriously...

[Lemminkäinen]

Lemmy: These Eastern Europeans who (directly after end of Warsaw path) crawled under NATO .... have not the smallest clue about military system of Finland.


I'm very pleased to see that your (Finland's) politicians will not gonna change anything either now as you are joining to NATO.


There are no secrets behind of this either:



PS: Can you say how many (%) per age group of guys will earn this? My cousin was one of them

I read about German numbers. Was it 20% saying that they would move abroad if they have to do something.

[Lemminkäinen]

2 million my ass. Do you think 2 million people, 50% of finnish population is able to front service? So a spoiled rich rainbow kid became a mass murder rambo in a minute? Okay it makes no sense to talking with you, you have no idea about the real world.

No i didn't say that. It was at least 840000 using modern weapons with night vision devices, not old rusty AK47's or something as in Hungary.

[Lemminkäinen]

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In the Winter War the finnish army was less than 350000, (at this time finns were much more badass and patriotic) and now Lemmi fantasies about 2 million soldier. Sorry but i cant take you guys seriously...

During the Winter War the Finnish army was built of farmers and lumberjacks who had old rifles from the WWI. Some old tanks and maybe 20 old planes. Calling those planes fighters and Russians have died of laughing. No one sent us better arms. We got some Swedish volunteers and from UK some lords who tried to avoid dying of simple boredom at their home. We couldn't send them to the front because lords would have died of boredom also there and it would have been useless.

[Blondie]

No i didn't say that. It was at least 840000 using modern weapons with night vision devices, not old rusty AK47's or something as in Hungary.

There is no 840000 soldier in Finland, i hope you dont belive this fairy tale and hungarian army dont use AK47, just saying. The Honvédség would defeat Finland anytime.

[Annihilus]

Every Finn is born a soldier.

[Blondie]

I have read about the finnish army a little bit, and this is just recruited army, not professional:
https://academic.oup.com/book/44441/chapter/376664369

This is a classic obsoleted army model from 19-20. century, based on such average peoples who are simple civilians with minimal military knowledge. The combat value of these units is on very low level. The finnish army did not participate missions/real battles in abroad either.
The hungarian army is professional, with the most modern weapons because of Orbáns military reform, the hungarian army (Honvédség) participated in several battles in various NATO missions they have real war experiences.

[Lemminkäinen]

There is no 840000 soldier in Finland, i hope you dont belive this fairy tale and hungarian army dont use AK47, just saying.

In Finland we have a liability to military service. I don't need to believe it. Every man who is able to act in war has to serve 6-11 months in army. Old men don't belong to the reserve and a few percetage of young are not willing or have medical reasons to avoid service. It is not mandatory for women, but every year over 1000 of them get armed military training, just the same as men.

[Blondie]

In Finland we have a liability to military service. I don't need to believe it. Every man who is able to act in war has to serve 6-11 months in army. Old men don't belong to the reserve and a few percetage of young are not willing or have medical reasons to avoid service. It is not mandatory for women, but every year over 1000 of them get armed military training, just the same as men.

I know, check my prev. comment. Thats existed in Hungary too, these recruited units are totally useless, professional army is much better.