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    Default Medieval Calculator for Iberians and LatAm (based on Jingle Bell's)

    It's a Calculator based on @Jingle Bell 's (Medieval Iberian calculator (For Latinos & Iberians fellas))


    It has a different Morisco reference, it's more shifted and makes a bit more sense IMO.

    OLD
    Target: Morisco:Iberia_Southeast_c.10-16CE:I7425
    Distance: 1.9614% / 0.01961379 | R3P

    52.4 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
    35.0 Algerian
    12.6 Georgian_NorthEast

    NEW
    Target: Morisco
    Distance: 1.0128% / 0.01012849 | R3P

    52.6 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
    42.0 Berber_Tunisia_Chen
    5.4 Yemenite_Mahra


    I also added a Medieval Italian refference, I just makes sense when you think about it.




    Here's the Spreadsheet of some Iberians with the new Model:



    You can see that not all of them match Italian MA, just Eivissa.


    As you can see with other Spanish Averages, only the Balearic ones match the Italian:




    Main References:
    Code:
    Reconquista_Northern_Settler:Girona_Medieval,0.114582,0.14589766666667,0.030547,-0.006783,0.03662233333333,0.00111533333333,-0.00133166666667,0.00399966666667,0.026179,0.03444266666667,-0.00530433333333,0.00364666666667,-0.01065366666667,-0.01022966666667,0.00239766666667,0.00039766666667,0.00178166666667,-0.004645,0.00025133333333,-0.002835,0.00420066666667,0.00012366666667,-0.001068,-0.00116466666667,0.00063866666667
    Reconquista_Northern_Settler:Visigoth_Medieval,0.12488028571429,0.13927271428571,0.04606257142857,0.02048742857143,0.03978742857143,0.00494057142857,0.00365928571429,0.00530742857143,0.01279742857143,0.01608871428571,-0.00651871428571,0.00734542857143,-0.010852,-0.006311,0.00791042857143,0.00443228571429,0.00201171428571,0.00378271428571,-0.001167,0.00423414285714,0.00456328571429,0.00113057142857,-0.003539,0.00251328571429,-0.00272
    Morisco,0.0551102718254,0.13748925661376,0.01461627248677,-0.03549313492064,0.03226168121693,-0.02013688690476,-0.01592711574074,0.00218073611111,0.04049090343915,0.02376167791005,0.00406095171958,-0.00061227645503,0.00533818981481,-0.01280646957672,0.01420100330688,-0.00334456216931,0.00051354695767,-0.01100176124339,-0.02248255489418,0.00527439219577,-0.00401509259259,-0.01855154100529,0.01025095304233,-0.00566445436508,0.00167020634921
    Italian_MA,0.11501552380952,0.1449789047619,0.01194233333333,-0.02153333333333,0.02557238095238,-0.00883147619048,0.000705,-0.00148342857143,0.00873604761905,0.0198029047619,-0.00034033333333,0.00358961904762,-0.009309,-0.0023789047619,-0.00351580952381,-0.00037880952381,0.00079466666667,-0.00031976190476,0.00216085714286,-0.00291819047619,0.00130723809524,0.00340323809524,-0.00191914285714,0.00304680952381,-0.00002285714286
    Serfadic:Sefardi_Average,0.0907738,0.145094,-0.0233814,-0.0609662,0.0057318,-0.0219276,-0.0054344,-0.002596,0.0116579,0.0199775,0.004202,0.0001688,5.56e-05,-0.0005678,-0.00436,-0.0065301,-0.0081814,-0.000475,-0.0013355,-0.0065658,-0.0048508,-0.0059044,0.001217,0.0025606,0.0024399
    Serfadic:Erfurt_&_Norwich_Average,0.09384715,0.1436466,-0.01431185,-0.0535857,0.01234075,-0.0199546,-0.00141,0.0003461,0.01233285,0.0193443,0.004287,0.0000375,0.00449695,-0.00037845,-0.00349495,-0.0003979,-0.00200785,0.00069045,-0.0017535,-0.00355165,-0.0024768,-0.0022691,0.0005546,0.00144,-0.0010538

    Latin American Compactibility:
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    Amerindian:Indigenous_Americas-Arctic,0.046615,-0.36884,0.118776,0.039951,-0.121325,-0.044185,-0.097914,-0.111901,0.006627,-0.012477,0.030207,-0.00453,0.009208,-0.018515,-0.033596,-0.015397,-0.0033,0.016719,0.037113,0.020386,0.02997,-0.051478,0.009383,0.027021,0.040713
    Amerindian:Indigenous_Americas-North,0.053782,-0.324969,0.109931,0.073119,-0.104558,-0.017431,-0.190123,-0.224644,-0.00749,-0.02278,0.009337,-0.004665,0.007099,-0.000413,-0.013775,-0.003149,-0.000587,0.00293,0.010747,0.008645,0.004055,-0.010078,0.001941,0.005573,0.007754
    Amerindian:Indigenous_Americas-Mexico,0.055049,-0.305909,0.114206,0.093129,-0.105361,-0.014299,-0.271748,-0.325749,-0.011125,-0.01624,-0.005553,-0.003001,0.001546,0.019413,-0.007326,0.004355,0.006138,0.000138,0.002818,-0.001761,-0.002218,0.004577,-0.000549,-0.000281,0.002198
    Amerindian:Indigenous_Americas-Yukatan_Peninsula,0.056684,-0.290848,0.110421,0.08889,-0.103158,-0.015618,-0.273882,-0.326802,-0.014398,-0.015782,-0.00315,-0.001948,0.001427,0.020203,-0.008957,0.003341,0.008188,-0.001039,-0.000653,-0.002201,-0.002371,0.005391,0.001257,-0.000868,0.001126
    Amerindian:Indigenous_Americas-Bolivia_&_Peru,0.056365,-0.309196,0.120031,0.095398,-0.114573,-0.017803,-0.299388,-0.358248,-0.012855,-0.016917,-0.002756,-0.00098,-0.000338,0.023517,-0.007484,0.004954,0.007695,-0.00071,0.000389,0.00004,-0.001257,0.005623,-0.001926,0.000786,-0.003379
    Amerindian:Indigenous_Americas-Central,0.056478,-0.30328,0.110335,0.091402,-0.106862,-0.014808,-0.278896,-0.330536,-0.013352,-0.015976,-0.006093,-0.001934,0.000832,0.019739,-0.006977,0.008896,0.006246,0.001216,0.000996,-0.002212,-0.003779,0.005726,-0.001534,0.001336,0.001457
    Amerindian:Indigenous_Americas-Panama_&_Costa_Rica,0.056044,-0.301902,0.110928,0.093332,-0.106936,-0.017344,-0.285415,-0.340315,-0.013002,-0.015915,-0.004554,-0.002969,0.001961,0.021449,-0.009475,0.004799,0.009363,0.000784,-0.001149,-0.001048,-0.001569,0.00663,0.001121,0.000143,-0.001996
    Amerindian:Indigenous_Americas-Equador,0.054664,-0.306588,0.114946,0.095075,-0.108351,-0.018692,-0.295779,-0.353818,-0.013176,-0.014784,-0.002558,-0.000757,0.001037,0.024094,-0.008204,0.00293,0.007474,0.000345,-0.001138,-0.002098,0.000399,0.007289,-0.002249,-0.0015,-0.000937
    Amerindian:Indigenous_Americas-Colombia_&_Venezuela,0.05307,-0.317861,0.115729,0.100292,-0.11129,-0.01757,-0.305661,-0.364427,-0.01061,-0.015763,-0.007328,-0.002773,0.002137,0.024566,-0.007702,0.00542,0.010088,0.000538,-0.000471,-0.000438,-0.00078,0.007466,-0.001386,-0.000648,-0.006257
    Amerindian:Indigenous_Americas-Chile,0.05466,-0.286402,0.116229,0.089378,-0.105743,-0.017427,-0.285517,-0.342822,-0.012308,-0.01389,-0.00394,-0.002634,0.001136,0.021809,-0.004388,0.009016,0.00742,-0.00103,0.000858,0.001504,-0.003907,0.007196,-0.000173,0.002458,-0.001836
    Amerindian:Indigenous_Eastern_South_America:Amazonian,0.055843,-0.318977,0.118412,0.104694,-0.116193,-0.017118,-0.321376,-0.380968,-0.014728,-0.019089,0.001017,-0.002324,-0.00031,0.03155,-0.00962,0.00407,0.009947,0.000892,0.00096,0.000969,-0.003528,0.012082,-0.003763,-0.004043,-0.006573
    Amerindian:Indigenous_Eastern_South_America:East,0.042868,-0.313739,0.091988,0.090614,-0.077372,-0.022179,-0.252136,-0.298598,-0.009961,-0.015597,0.006605,-0.004173,-0.002517,0.01184,-0.007362,0.003426,0.004923,-0.002301,0.001245,0.001254,0.000831,0.002662,0.000085,-0.003328,-0.006936
    
    Sub-Saharan_Africa:Mali,-0.615745,0.064132,0.019608,0.013048,0.000346,0.010906,-0.042778,0.04396,-0.037659,0.027466,0.004621,0.000234,0.020742,-0.000107,0.012904,-0.010029,0.009559,-0.000864,0.000924,-0.001566,0.000097,-0.000041,0.000081,-0.00042,0.000393
    Sub-Saharan_Africa:Senegal,-0.605478,0.064015,0.017755,0.010245,0.000644,0.008441,-0.038013,0.038955,-0.029364,0.02482,0.004459,-0.001229,0.018671,-0.001223,0.015108,-0.011697,0.010389,-0.000844,-0.002658,-0.002054,-0.001802,-0.004688,0.001458,-0.001152,0.001759
    Sub-Saharan_Africa:Ivory_Coast_&_Ghana,-0.624923,0.063968,0.020397,0.01507,0.000588,0.012538,-0.042471,0.043811,-0.042848,0.030719,0.004116,0.000739,0.020629,0.000189,0.011846,-0.009521,0.008689,-0.000026,0.002869,-0.001694,-0.000144,0.001961,-0.000372,-0.00004,-0.000046
    Sub-Saharan_Africa:Benin_&_Togo,-0.628349,0.06299,0.021541,0.016162,0.000532,0.012495,-0.043768,0.046449,-0.04687,0.032086,0.004452,0.000773,0.022247,0.000697,0.012297,-0.009578,0.007614,0.000291,0.004971,-0.002558,0.000988,0.002197,-0.001297,-0.000327,-0.000298
    Sub-Saharan_Africa:Nigeria:North_&_East,-0.5449,0.072997,0.015331,-0.001074,0.003952,0.001961,-0.039777,0.039242,-0.014162,0.019842,0.002624,-0.001262,0.017926,-0.00292,0.012298,-0.011439,0.008059,-0.007294,-0.00569,-0.001036,-0.004063,-0.007767,0.006212,0.000114,0.000309
    Sub-Saharan_Africa:Nigeria:South_&_West,-0.630713,0.063398,0.02224,0.017448,-0.0002,0.01266,-0.040385,0.04564,-0.048504,0.033549,0.005411,-0.000326,0.021827,0.001912,0.010571,-0.008425,0.007295,0.002093,0.005297,-0.001988,0.000859,0.001571,-0.001708,-0.000013,-0.001058
    Sub-Saharan_Africa:Nigeria-East_Central,-0.597571,0.059916,0.009805,0.007752,-0.002462,0.00251,-0.035017,0.035075,0.013294,-0.027335,-0.012017,0.008243,-0.003419,-0.004404,0.003257,-0.005436,0.017211,-0.014949,0.005405,-0.012256,-0.005241,-0.005935,0.008381,-0.000723,-0.002395
    Sub-Saharan_Africa:Mbuti,-0.647426,0.059104,0.025493,0.037403,-0.001108,0.006638,0.366335,-0.293434,0.017712,0.02985,-0.008932,0.219824,0.126451,0.001018,0.010342,-0.001405,0.000939,-0.051866,0.014229,0.003727,0.006114,-0.001855,-0.004388,0.00253,-0.000694
    Sub-Saharan_Africa:Khoi-San,-0.619255,0.060272,0.021062,0.029232,0.001062,-0.001506,0.245457,-0.190746,0.02126,0.007326,0.002639,-0.063154,-0.023347,0.007088,0.023595,-0.026723,0.037909,0.336263,-0.112073,0.002814,-0.044397,-0.004006,0.008221,-0.004742,0.002287
    Sub-Saharan_Africa:Western_Bantu_Peoples:North,-0.626355,0.063202,0.02075,0.016853,0.000373,0.01359,-0.019205,0.026158,-0.032436,0.017395,0.004556,-0.001335,0.000765,0.000199,-0.002687,0.003443,-0.003271,-0.000934,0.001131,0.001296,-0.001309,0.00058,-0.000058,-0.000584,-0.002351
    Sub-Saharan_Africa:Western_Bantu_Peoples:South,-0.626719,0.064263,0.020335,0.016616,0.000048,0.012423,-0.012271,0.019028,-0.031992,0.018272,0.004421,-0.00237,-0.002899,0.001067,-0.007451,0.006487,-0.006799,0.006656,-0.003825,0.003106,-0.000565,-0.000253,0.001347,-0.000541,-0.002523
    Sub-Saharan_Africa:Nilotic_Peoples,-0.579886,0.053591,0.001037,-0.00664,-0.00177,-0.002974,-0.004666,0.010221,0.07646,-0.094737,-0.018999,0.024587,-0.03868,-0.000789,0.007921,-0.016391,0.018796,-0.010703,0.019224,-0.019273,0.000086,0.004937,-0.004554,-0.00326,0.003976
    Sub-Saharan_Africa:Ethiopia_&_Eritrea,-0.218121,0.105393,-0.034006,-0.084066,0.00061,-0.038553,-0.015587,-0.000469,0.101667,-0.062023,-0.00141,-0.010892,0.018456,-0.000008,0.020897,-0.009271,0.00844,-0.000448,0.005398,0.002463,0.004297,0.006184,-0.002855,0.002244,-0.003208
    Sub-Saharan_Africa:Somalia,-0.298817,0.093706,-0.027201,-0.068435,-0.00014,-0.034542,-0.019497,0.005198,0.116791,-0.080571,-0.008285,-0.006605,0.004149,-0.001574,0.024773,-0.017883,0.015103,-0.001405,0.010149,-0.004309,0.000597,0.003678,-0.003209,-0.001777,0.000137
    Sub-Saharan_Africa:Eastern_Bantu_Peoples,-0.594232,0.054364,0.010258,0.006686,-0.006658,0.002845,-0.001097,0.007931,0.037094,-0.051688,-0.011226,0.019218,-0.027824,-0.000335,-0.008419,0.000743,0.006306,-0.003695,0.007441,-0.006024,-0.001477,0.003978,-0.002317,0.003161,0.00093
    Sub-Saharan_Africa:Southern_Bantu_Peoples,-0.625666,0.063859,0.019953,0.016282,-0.000361,0.010286,0.003003,0.008519,-0.025845,0.011816,0.001588,-0.002576,-0.010762,0.001582,-0.013247,0.009436,-0.009045,0.028452,-0.014996,0.003896,-0.001566,-0.000888,0.001818,0.000699,-0.000001
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    Target: Ivorix
    Distance: 1.4151% / 0.01415056
    95.2 Reconquista_Northern_Settler
    4.8 Morisco

    Target: Ivorix
    Distance: 1.4151% / 0.01415078
    69.0 Reconquista_Northern_Settler:Girona_Medieval
    26.4 Reconquista_Northern_Settler:Visigoth_Medieval
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    Quote Originally Posted by vikiingMallorcaSpain View Post
    Target: Ivorix
    Distance: 1.4151% / 0.01415056
    95.2 Reconquista_Northern_Settler
    4.8 Morisco

    Target: Ivorix
    Distance: 1.4151% / 0.01415078
    69.0 Reconquista_Northern_Settler:Girona_Medieval
    26.4 Reconquista_Northern_Settler:Visigoth_Medieval
    4.6 Morisco



    I know you're part british, does this make any difference?

    Great_Britain_&_Ireland:English,0.1318551,0.137043,0.0617883,0.04 4013,0.0392299,0.0167481,0.0049845,0.0057448,0.005 2637,0.0056781,-0.0047691,0.0056161,-0.0125892,-0.0103507,0.0206153,0.0035521,-0.0103689,0.004094,0.003685,0.0029619,0.0059369,0. 0034036,-0.0032693,0.0137938,3.16e-05

    One sample was wrong try to update the other post too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jgab602 View Post
    I know you're part british, does this make any difference?

    Great_Britain_&_Ireland:English,0.1318551,0.137043,0.0617883,0.04 4013,0.0392299,0.0167481,0.0049845,0.0057448,0.005 2637,0.0056781,-0.0047691,0.0056161,-0.0125892,-0.0103507,0.0206153,0.0035521,-0.0103689,0.004094,0.003685,0.0029619,0.0059369,0. 0034036,-0.0032693,0.0137938,3.16e-05

    One sample was wrong try to update the other post too.
    with the british sample is perfect for me

    Target: Ivorix
    Distance: 1.3644% / 0.01364442
    80.0 Reconquista_Northern_Settler
    14.4 Great_Britain_&_Ireland
    5.6 Morisco

    with the updated sample

    Target: Ivorix
    Distance: 1.4151% / 0.01415056
    95.2 Reconquista_Northern_Settler
    4.8 Morisco

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    Target: Ivorix
    Distance: 1.3644% / 0.01364442
    77.2 Reconquista_Northern_Settler:Girona_Medieval
    14.4 Great_Britain_&_Ireland:English
    5.6 Morisco
    2.8 Reconquista_Northern_Settler:Visigoth_Medieval


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    Nice work! Ik that some settlers of Eastern Iberians were Frenchs, so would be nice there a French reference also

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    Code:
    Target: JingleBell_scaled
    Distance: 1.9351% / 0.01935143
    44.8	Sub-Saharan_Africa
    36.0	Reconquista_Northern_Settler
    13.6	Morisco
    3.0	Serfadic
    2.6	Amerindian
    
    Target: JingleBell_scaled
    Distance: 1.9329% / 0.01932891
    33.2	Reconquista_Northern_Settler:Girona_Medieval
    32.2	Sub-Saharan_Africa:Nigeria:South_&_West
    13.0	Morisco
    7.0	Sub-Saharan_Africa:Benin_&_Togo
    3.8	Sub-Saharan_Africa:Southern_Bantu_Peoples
    3.4	Reconquista_Northern_Settler:Visigoth_Medieval
    2.6	Serfadic:Sefardi_Average
    2.6	Amerindian:Indigenous_Eastern_South_America:Amazonian
    1.0	Sub-Saharan_Africa:Khoi-San
    0.8	Sub-Saharan_Africa:Somalia
    0.4	Sub-Saharan_Africa:Mbuti
    Oh, i thought i was more Moorish! xd
    Good job, ur one looks way more realistic
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jingle Bell View Post
    Nice work! Ik that some settlers of Eastern Iberians were Frenchs, so would be nice there a French reference also

    we can try this central French one:

    France:French_Auvergne:C_34,0.12862,0.147252,0.053 928,0.014212,0.0397,0.011713,-0.00094,-0.001154,0.00409,0.014032,0.00065,0.003447,-0.013082,-0.013349,-0.000136,-0.010607,-0.010561,-0.001014,0,-0.005127,0.004118,0.001978,0.002342,0.003735,-0.008023


    Target: Ivorix
    Distance: 1.3499% / 0.01349870
    74.8 Reconquista_Northern_Settler
    12.4 Great_Britain_&_Ireland
    6.8 French_Settler
    6.0 Morisco


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    Quote Originally Posted by vikiingMallorcaSpain View Post
    we can try this central French one:

    France:French_Auvergne:C_34,0.12862,0.147252,0.053 928,0.014212,0.0397,0.011713,-0.00094,-0.001154,0.00409,0.014032,0.00065,0.003447,-0.013082,-0.013349,-0.000136,-0.010607,-0.010561,-0.001014,0,-0.005127,0.004118,0.001978,0.002342,0.003735,-0.008023


    Target: Ivorix
    Distance: 1.3499% / 0.01349870
    74.8 Reconquista_Northern_Settler
    12.4 Great_Britain_&_Ireland
    6.8 French_Settler
    6.0 Morisco
    Now ur British its perfect! literally 1/8!

    mine:

    Target: JingleBell_scaled
    Distance: 1.9275% / 0.01927498
    45.4 Sub-Saharan_Africa
    32.0 Reconquista_Northern_Settler
    13.4 Morisco
    4.4 France
    2.6 Amerindian
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jingle Bell View Post
    Now ur British its perfect! literally 1/8!

    mine:

    Target: JingleBell_scaled
    Distance: 1.9275% / 0.01927498
    45.4 Sub-Saharan_Africa
    32.0 Reconquista_Northern_Settler
    13.4 Morisco
    4.4 France
    2.6 Amerindian
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    It's interesting your high Morisco


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    Good idea! I might update this later with an actual Medieval French component to see, but it looks pretty good!

    Mine without French:
    Target: Jgab602_scaled
    Distance: 1.3605% / 0.01360519

    46.8 Sub-Saharan_Africa
    45.4 Reconquista_Northern_Settler
    5.2 Italian_MA
    2.6 Amerindian


    Mine with French:
    Target: Jgab602_scaled
    Distance: 1.3481% / 0.01348145

    46.8 Sub-Saharan_Africa
    40.6 Reconquista_Northern_Settler
    5.2 France
    4.8 Italian_MA
    2.6 Amerindian
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