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    Before any Greek starts talking about ROME .. I remind them that Rome was mainly influenced by the Etruscans who had nothing to do with the Greeks. Probably the Etruscans ( who did not speak an Indo-European language ) learned to write directly from the Phoenicians ... who had colonies in Sicily and Sardinia long before the Greeks arrived .. Of course, going further back we arrive at the Middle East .. Turkey Syria Iraq Egypt up to the Caucasus and Persia.. and before that there was nothing.. nothing at all.. just wild men who maybe didn't even know how to speak..

    These are the FACTS.. like it or not..

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    Quote Originally Posted by renaissance12 View Post
    Before any Greek starts talking about ROME .. I remind them that Rome was mainly influenced by the Etruscans who had nothing to do with the Greeks.

    Man, stop with the butthurt.

    Constantine moved the Empire to the East, we are the offsprings of that decision.

    Also, the New Testament was written in Greek not Latin, hence the language swap, imo (the reason above all).

    So deal with it and log your complaints with Constantine and all the other Emperors that succeeded him, not us.

    And when we talk about our (eastern) roman past, we refer to the "Basilheia ton Rhomaion", you know, the Orthodox Kingdom of the nation of Christ, not your degenerate homo "republic" that couldn't go past 476 A.D.

    Salty cunt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hexachordia View Post
    The jesuit order produced many brilliant encyclopedic scholars, Italy was the center of this order. This order should not be overtly vilified, they surely had gotten some amazing achievements. BTW, Ethiopia which defeated Italy in early1900s was not really an empty land but civilized by multiply waves of christian missionary since 16th century.

    Despite its difficult gestation, the Jesuit mathematical schools, thanks to Christoph Clavius, gained great prestige in a short time. The Society of Jesus, therefore, provided a fertile ground for mathematical and astronomical studies. Between the sixteenth and eighteenth centuries, many generations of scholars had been trained in schools of the Society of Jesus. Jesuit mathematicians were interested in scientific innovation and they contributed original research to all scientific disciplines of the time, in addition to playing a key role in spreading scientific knowledge. Many Jesuits have an important place in the history of mathematics. Their handbooks and scientific texts were used and highly regarded by the greatest European mathematicians. In this chapter, we give an account of the events that characterized the birth and the developments of the Jesuit mathematical education, by focusing mainly on European assistances in addition to a brief account of Jesuit mathematical missions in Asia.


    Nordic people were wanted for their warrior culture, like Japan, as you might uphold the intellectual glories of Italy, I also uphold warrior cultures. Many recent math greand discoveries were also made by nordics like Bernhard Riemann, Niels Abel, Sophus Lie, Rolf Nevanlinna, also that famous playboy and math genius gaul Galois. Historically Italy is significant, but as to the recent breakthroughts, nordic people have one of the most important contributions.

    No you are wrong..

    Ethiopia was a Christian country long before any european country.. Ethiopia is the only place in world that has never been influenced by the Roman Church when it was not divided..

    No Catholic missionary has ever gone to Ethiopia to "Christianize"... They went to Ethiopia to convert the christian people to catholicism.. The catholic missionaries went to Ethiopia with the intention of converting people who were already christians to accept catholicism but most of Ethiopians replied: No thanks.. we have our fathers of the church, some of whom shared with you catholics

    How could you christianize a country that was already Christian even before Emperor Constantine (he was elected emperor in YORK England) ?



    Galois was great ( and he was not nordic looking as almost 99% of great european mathematicians ) but the group concept (and all other important concepts) evolved gradually. Galois did not define the group as we know it now. For him, a group was a group of substitutions on a finite set. Substitutions on finite sets were considered by Cauchy ( French ) and Lagrange ( Italy ) and Ruffini ( Italy ) before Galois. Including premutations of the roots of algebraic equations.

    I try to explain better with an example.. When VOLTA built the first battery to produce direct current (and not the simple electrostatic discharge that had already bored and tired the Babylonians Egyptians Greeks 2000 years earlier) in the following 3 or 4 decades the foundations were laid of electrical engineering.. All you had to do was take a battery of VOLTA and play a little with your imagination.. just like children do.. Faraday put a magnet near the wire carrying an electric current and he noticed something.. Ampere did something similar.. Ohm the same.. If Faraday Ampere and Ohm hadn't been born.. some other child in the same period - or shortly after- would have put a magnet near a current-carrying wire... Instead if Volta hadn't been born. . the era without electricity could have lasted another 300-500 or 1000 years and today none of us would be on the computer..

    Mathematics.. ( but all the mathematics of the world ) .. before the Renaissance was not very different from known mathematics 2000 years earlier from the Greeks Chinese Persians Babylonians Egyptians Indians..


    The Italian mathematicians were the authors of the great intellectual leap in mathematics with the discovery of imaginary/complex numbers and the first steps of infinitesimal calculus....

    Mathematics "detached" from the physical and natural world to become abstract and pure but always real..
    This leap took over 2000 years to occur.. Not 10 years.. or 15..

    What does this mean? That for 2000-3000 years ( . Not 10 years.. or 15.. ) the best mathematicians in the world have thought in vain about how to advance mathematics..

    Somebody says: “All of Western philosophy is but a footnote to Plato.” and i say : All of jewsh mathematic contribution is but footnote to mathematic bulk developed by non jews mathematicians ( most of them Italian and non nordic looking ).
    And I'm sure that many share my thought .. because it is based on facts and logical considerations .
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    Italian Gian Domenico Romagnosi found a relationship between electricity and magnetism about two decades before Hans Christian Oersted's 1820 discovery of electromagnetism.

    Gian Domenico Romagnosi observed in Trento the deviation of the magnetic needle induced by an electric current.

    Why did Oersted get so much credit for his much later discovery, while Romagnosi prior discovery has been
    nearly forgotten?

    A first paper written by Romagnosi was published on the Gazzetta di Trento 3 August 1802.

    A second paper written by Romagnosi was published on the Gazzetta di Rovereto August 13 August 1802.

    Romagnosi, in October 1802, sent his paper to Paris (Academie des Sciences, 1802)

    A private letter written by Romagnosi in 1827, commenting on Oersted’s

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    Quote Originally Posted by eupator View Post
    Man, stop with the butthurt.

    Constantine moved the Empire to the East, we are the offsprings of that decision.

    Also, the New Testament was written in Greek not Latin, hence the language swap, imo (the reason above all).

    So deal with it and log your complaints with Constantine and all the other Emperors that succeeded him, not us.

    And when we talk about our (eastern) roman past, we refer to the "Basilheia ton Rhomaion", you know, the Orthodox Kingdom of the nation of Christ, not your degenerate homo "republic" that couldn't go past 476 A.D.

    Salty cunt.
    You miss my point.. Rome was influenced by Etruscans in the beginning.. The FIRST 7 KINGS OF ROME were etruscans.... and Etruscans civilization has nothing to do with greece...

    When greeks arrived in Italy in VIII-XIX century B.C.. they found an advanced civilization ( that is different from culture ) already there..

    When the Greeks arrived in Italy for the first time Rome was not born yet or just born .. but the Etruscan civilization was already centuries old ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by renaissance12 View Post
    You miss my point.. Rome was influenced by Etruscans in the beginning.. The FIRST 7 KINGS OF ROME were etruscans.... and Etruscans civilization has nothing to do with greece...

    When greeks arrived in Italy in VIII-XIX century B.C.. they found an advanced civilization ( that is different from culture ) already there..

    When the Greeks arrived in Italy for the first time Rome was not born yet or just born .. but the Etruscan civilization was already centuries old ..

    OK, my bad.

    On a similar note, why do you think etruscans have a lot of R-P312 and yet not speak IE?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eupator View Post
    OK, my bad.

    On a similar note, why do you think etruscans have a lot of R-P312 and yet not speak IE?
    The origin of the Etruscans is still shrouded in mystery..
    The language is a mystery.. it has no affinity with any known language...
    Some ancient historians said that their origin is in the East.. What a new !!!.. The civilization was born in the east ( fertile crescente ) and not in Scandinavia..

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