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    Most specific position on the YFull YTree is E-V13 Link to E-V13 on YFull View heatmap on Y Heatmap View theoretical migration on PhyloGeographer

    E-V13 CTS10084/PF2245/Z1058($) CTS11813/Z1060(?) CTS12527/PF2206(?) CTS1408/Z1045(?) CTS2374/Z1049($) CTS2382/PF2128/Z1050(?) CTS3998(?) CTS4993($) CTS529(?) CTS5371/PF2231($) CTS5850/PF2233(?) CTS5935/PF2235/Z1053(?) CTS6229/Z1054($) CTS6472(?) CTS7315(?) CTS7633/PF2240/Z1056(?) CTS791/PF2212/Z1044(?) CTS8061(?) CTS9071($) FGC11424(?) FGC11426(?) FGC11434(?) FGC11438/Z21282(?) FGC11443(?) FGC41616(?) L1024/CTS3726/PF2226($) L542/PF2220($) PF2209/Z1042(?) PF2213/S7466(?) PF2214(?) PF2222/Z1051(?) PF2248/Z1059(?) PF6785(?) V13/PF2211+ V36/PF2210+ V7565/Y3865/FGC11422/SK887($) Y3181(?) Y3182/Z21285(?) Y3864/Z21284(?) Y4359/FGC19292(?) Y4361/FGC11439(?) Z1896(?) Z21281(?) L142.1/L142.2/L142($)
    ┣━E-BY6550 +1 BY40504($) BY6546($) BY6550(?) BY6552($) BY6554($) BY6557(?) BY6561(?) BY6562(?) BY6566(?) BY6568($) BY6569(?) FGC34532($) FT272464($) Y141643($) Y325861(?)
    ┗━E-Z1057 +2 CTS8814/Z1057($) Y3764/FGC14553(?) Z1041/Z1099(?)

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    YSEQ recommends the E1b-V13 Panel Predicted E-V13 is the panel root. This panel is applicable and will definitely provide higher resolution.


    Next best prediction (scored 314 compared to 316) E-L618

    Eurogenes k13

    # Population Percent
    1 Baltic 29.75
    2 North_Atlantic 22.4
    3 West_Med 19.07
    4 East_Med 16.91
    5 West_Asian 10.09
    6 Amerindian 0.78
    7 South_Asian 0.42
    8 Siberian 0.3
    9 Northeast_African 0.28


    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Romanian 5.86
    2 Serbian 6.2
    3 Bulgarian 6.39
    4 Moldavian 8
    5 Croatian 10.61
    6 Hungarian 12.26
    7 Greek_Thessaly 14.83
    8 Austrian 15.67
    9 East_German 16.81
    10 Ukrainian_Lviv 16.89
    11 South_Polish 17.79
    12 Ukrainian 17.84
    13 North_Italian 19.25
    14 Tuscan 20.06
    15 Southwest_Russian 20.96
    16 West_German 21
    17 Polish 21.17
    18 Ukrainian_Belgorod 21.22
    19 Italian_Abruzzo 21.71
    20 Central_Greek 21.86


    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 75.9% Bulgarian + 24.1% Ukrainian @ 3.12
    2 64.8% Bulgarian + 35.2% Croatian @ 3.33
    3 83.8% Bulgarian + 16.2% Lithuanian @ 3.35
    4 81% Bulgarian + 19% Estonian_Polish @ 3.38
    5 54.8% Greek_Thessaly + 45.2% Ukrainian @ 3.41
    6 79.5% Bulgarian + 20.5% Polish @ 3.44
    7 75.5% Bulgarian + 24.5% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.46
    8 80.9% Bulgarian + 19.1% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.49
    9 57.4% Bulgarian + 42.6% Moldavian @ 3.5
    10 79.5% Bulgarian + 20.5% Southwest_Russian @ 3.56
    11 76.7% Bulgarian + 23.3% South_Polish @ 3.57
    12 81.9% Bulgarian + 18.1% Belorussian @ 3.59
    13 84.2% Bulgarian + 15.8% Estonian @ 3.64
    14 80% Bulgarian + 20% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.67
    15 82.5% Bulgarian + 17.5% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.7
    16 59.8% Ukrainian + 40.2% South_Italian @ 3.71
    17 55.3% Ukrainian + 44.7% Central_Greek @ 3.72
    18 59.1% Croatian + 40.9% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.77
    19 83.5% Bulgarian + 16.5% Erzya @ 3.89
    20 67.2% Moldavian + 32.8% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.91

    Euro k36

    Amerindian -
    Arabian -
    Armenian 5.18 Pct
    Basque 1.99 Pct
    Central_African -
    Central_Euro 3.99 Pct
    East_African -
    East_Asian -
    East_Balkan 9.7 Pct
    East_Central_Asian -
    East_Central_Euro 15.31 Pct
    East_Med 3.56 Pct
    Eastern_Euro 8.34 Pct
    Fennoscandian 2.04 Pct
    French 5.71 Pct
    Iberian 7.93 Pct
    Indo-Chinese -
    Italian 16.4 Pct
    Malayan -
    Near_Eastern 0.35 Pct
    North_African -
    North_Atlantic 2.75 Pct
    North_Caucasian 4.41 Pct
    North_Sea 6.88 Pct
    Northeast_African -
    Oceanian -
    Omotic -
    Pygmy -
    Siberian -
    South_Asian -
    South_Central_Asian -
    South_Chinese -
    Volga-Ural 1.43 Pct
    West_African -
    West_Caucasian 0.69 Pct
    West_Med 3.33 Pct

    Dodecad k12b

    Population
    Gedrosia 3.97 Pct
    Siberian -
    Northwest_African 0.26 Pct
    Southeast_Asian -
    Atlantic_Med 26.9 Pct
    North_European 40.03 Pct
    South_Asian 0.52 Pct
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian 3.99 Pct
    East_Asian 0.78 Pct
    Caucasus 23.54 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -



    From Mr. G:

    Distance to: OiS_bro
    7.47122480 Serb
    7.83684248 Serb_Dalmatia
    8.17022032 Romanian_Southwest
    8.58434039 Bulgarian
    8.66631986 Montenegrin
    8.69246800 Romanian_Southeast
    8.74463264 Romanian
    8.89435214 Montenegrin
    8.92416383 Romanian_Northeast
    9.00093884 Moldova_South
    9.05539618 Bosnian
    9.59748405 Moldova_Centre
    10.03762422 Moldovan
    10.66059098 Bulgarian_2
    10.74653898 Croatian
    11.07283162 Moldova_North
    11.89062236 Romanian_Northwest
    12.25296699 Hungarian
    12.98481421 North_Macedonian-2
    13.05751508 Croat_Gorski_Kotar
    13.19417296 Gagauz
    13.23930889 Austrian_Carinthia
    13.41922129 Austrian_Styria
    13.49642545 Romanian_Central
    13.72637971 Albanian_Montenegro


    Target: OiS_bro
    Distance: 658.5851% / 6.58585140 | ADC: 0.25x
    37.0 Bosnian
    28.4 Serb_Dalmatia
    13.2 Albanian_Kosovo
    11.4 Romanian_Southwest
    9.6 Bulgarian
    0.4 Swiss_Italian


    Target: OiS_bro
    Distance: 678.2460% / 6.78245986 | ADC: 0.5x
    33.8 Serb_Dalmatia
    23.0 Romanian_Southwest
    17.8 Bulgarian
    16.2 Bosnian
    9.2 Serb

    Distance to: OiS_bro
    3.30168139 Vlach_Serbia
    3.66855557 Serb_EastSerbia
    3.71277524 Serb_SouthSerbia
    3.84754467 Serb_Vojvodina
    4.06099741 Serb_CentralSerbia
    4.33986175 Serb_CentralCroatia
    4.38974942 Serb_Lika
    4.41295819 Montenegro_SouthEast
    4.43963963 Moldovan_South
    4.44106969 Serb_BosanskaKrajina
    4.61552814 Serb_Dalmatia
    4.62273728 Romanian_Crişana
    4.67429139 Romanian_Moldavia_Central
    4.74546099 Romanian_Transylvania
    4.75987395 Romanian_Moldavia_South
    4.80023958 Serb_Herzegovina
    4.93487588 Serb_KosovoMetohija
    4.93984818 Serb_WestSerbia
    4.97341935 Montenegro_Old_Herzegovina
    5.06388191 Bulgarian_Northwestern
    5.07876954 Romanian_Banat
    5.22709288 Bosniak_Southeast
    5.42996317 Serb_NorthEastBosnia
    5.49923631 Bosniak_Sandzak_West
    5.60866294 Romanian_Oltenia


    From Dusan:


    Using K12b updated*https://pastebin.com/pD1vFFRF


    Distance to: OiS-brother
    2.81797800 Serb
    2.92391860 Romanian_Crișana
    3.03766358 Romanian_Maramureș
    3.58772909 Moldovan_Central
    4.23193809 Romanian_South_Moldavia
    4.29184110 Romanian_North_Moldavia
    4.46715793 Romanian_Transylvania
    4.64392076 Moldovan_South
    4.83328046 Montenegrin
    4.87194007 Bosnian



    1.881 OiS-brother = 68% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje + 32% Polish_Mazovia
    1.914 OiS-brother = 54% Albanian + 46% Polish_Mazovia
    1.941 OiS-brother = 65% Greek_Macedonia + 35% Polish_Mazovia
    1.977 OiS-brother = 52% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje + 48% Ukrainian_Southwest
    2.060 OiS-brother = 73% Greek_Macedonia + 27% Lithuanian
    2.076 OiS-brother = 52% Ukrainian_Southwest + 48% Greek_Macedonia
    2.127 OiS-brother = 68% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje + 32% Belorussian
    2.146 OiS-brother = 66% Greek_Macedonia + 34% Belorussian
    2.158 OiS-brother = 75% Macedonian_Northeast&Skopje + 25% Lithuanian
    2.158 OiS-brother = 63% Ukrainian_Southwest + 37% Albanian
    Last edited by Occiput in Starlight; 04-09-2023 at 12:59 AM.
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    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 75.9% Bulgarian + 24.1% Ukrainian @ 3.12
    2 64.8% Bulgarian + 35.2% Croatian @ 3.33
    3 83.8% Bulgarian + 16.2% Lithuanian @ 3.35
    4 81% Bulgarian + 19% Estonian_Polish @ 3.38
    5 54.8% Greek_Thessaly + 45.2% Ukrainian @ 3.41
    6 79.5% Bulgarian + 20.5% Polish @ 3.44
    7 75.5% Bulgarian + 24.5% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.46
    8 80.9% Bulgarian + 19.1% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.49
    9 57.4% Bulgarian + 42.6% Moldavian @ 3.5
    10 79.5% Bulgarian + 20.5% Southwest_Russian @ 3.56
    11 76.7% Bulgarian + 23.3% South_Polish @ 3.57
    12 81.9% Bulgarian + 18.1% Belorussian @ 3.59
    13 84.2% Bulgarian + 15.8% Estonian @ 3.64
    14 80% Bulgarian + 20% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.67
    15 82.5% Bulgarian + 17.5% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.7
    16 59.8% Ukrainian + 40.2% South_Italian @ 3.71
    17 55.3% Ukrainian + 44.7% Central_Greek @ 3.72
    18 59.1% Croatian + 40.9% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.77
    19 83.5% Bulgarian + 16.5% Erzya @ 3.89
    20 67.2% Moldavian + 32.8% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.91
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    Post the K15 too pls

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    Okay, let's dig in a little utilizing K36 and Vahaduo.

    OiS_bro,0,0,5.18,1.99,0,3.99,0,0,9.7,0,15.31,3.56, 8.34,2.04,5.71,7.93,0,16.4,0,0.35,0,2.75,4.41,6.88 ,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1.43,0,0.69,3.33

    Distance to: OiS_bro
    7.47122480 Serb
    7.83684248 Serb_Dalmatia
    8.17022032 Romanian_Southwest
    8.58434039 Bulgarian
    8.66631986 Montenegrin
    8.69246800 Romanian_Southeast
    8.74463264 Romanian
    8.89435214 Montenegrin
    8.92416383 Romanian_Northeast
    9.00093884 Moldova_South
    9.05539618 Bosnian
    9.59748405 Moldova_Centre
    10.03762422 Moldovan
    10.66059098 Bulgarian_2
    10.74653898 Croatian
    11.07283162 Moldova_North
    11.89062236 Romanian_Northwest
    12.25296699 Hungarian
    12.98481421 North_Macedonian-2
    13.05751508 Croat_Gorski_Kotar
    13.19417296 Gagauz
    13.23930889 Austrian_Carinthia
    13.41922129 Austrian_Styria
    13.49642545 Romanian_Central
    13.72637971 Albanian_Montenegro


    Target: OiS_bro
    Distance: 658.5851% / 6.58585140 | ADC: 0.25x
    37.0 Bosnian
    28.4 Serb_Dalmatia
    13.2 Albanian_Kosovo
    11.4 Romanian_Southwest
    9.6 Bulgarian
    0.4 Swiss_Italian


    Target: OiS_bro
    Distance: 678.2460% / 6.78245986 | ADC: 0.5x
    33.8 Serb_Dalmatia
    23.0 Romanian_Southwest
    17.8 Bulgarian
    16.2 Bosnian
    9.2 Serb

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    I have not studied Serbian results, but these look like they are falling well within the typical Serb range, to me.

    I could not resist, I modelled myself using my mother's coordinates and also your brother's coordinates -- with this combo I can be about 40% Serbian. An expected result since I am of course not 1/2 Serb, but 1/2 Hungarian.

    Target: Mr.G
    Distance: 666.5123% / 6.66512262
    60.6 Mr.G_mother
    39.4 OiS_bro

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    You're "Vlach" from Serbia. Correct?

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    K13

    OiS_bro,22.4,29.75,19.07,10.09,16.91,0,0.42,0,0.3, 0.78,0,0.28,0

    Distance to: OiS_bro
    3.30168139 Vlach_Serbia
    3.66855557 Serb_EastSerbia
    3.71277524 Serb_SouthSerbia
    3.84754467 Serb_Vojvodina
    4.06099741 Serb_CentralSerbia
    4.33986175 Serb_CentralCroatia
    4.38974942 Serb_Lika
    4.41295819 Montenegro_SouthEast
    4.43963963 Moldovan_South
    4.44106969 Serb_BosanskaKrajina
    4.61552814 Serb_Dalmatia
    4.62273728 Romanian_Crişana
    4.67429139 Romanian_Moldavia_Central
    4.74546099 Romanian_Transylvania
    4.75987395 Romanian_Moldavia_South
    4.80023958 Serb_Herzegovina
    4.93487588 Serb_KosovoMetohija
    4.93984818 Serb_WestSerbia
    4.97341935 Montenegro_Old_Herzegovina
    5.06388191 Bulgarian_Northwestern
    5.07876954 Romanian_Banat
    5.22709288 Bosniak_Southeast
    5.42996317 Serb_NorthEastBosnia
    5.49923631 Bosniak_Sandzak_West
    5.60866294 Romanian_Oltenia

    Target: OiS_bro
    Distance: 240.8506% / 2.40850585 | ADC: 0.25x
    72.6 Vlach_Serbia
    18.0 Moldovan_South
    8.0 German_Brandenburg_Outlier(Beeskow)
    1.4 Montenegro_SouthEast

    Target: OiS_bro
    Distance: 265.3107% / 2.65310653 | ADC: 0.5x
    62.2 Vlach_Serbia
    29.8 Serb_CentralCroatia
    8.0 Moldovan_South

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    Again, I think fairly typical.

    I would be very surprised if your actual results varied significantly from your brother's, I think these should be fairly representative for you too.

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    Did u simulated your G25 already? When u want to use any calc click in my profile i have some G25 calculators


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    Quote Originally Posted by Universe View Post
    You're "Vlach" from Serbia. Correct?
    I am a Serbian from eastern Central Serbia. No known Vlach relatives. Am I correct in perceiving a certain Romanian shift in my results?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.G View Post
    Okay, let's dig in a little utilizing K36 and Vahaduo.

    OiS_bro,0,0,5.18,1.99,0,3.99,0,0,9.7,0,15.31,3.56, 8.34,2.04,5.71,7.93,0,16.4,0,0.35,0,2.75,4.41,6.88 ,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1.43,0,0.69,3.33

    Distance to: OiS_bro
    7.47122480 Serb
    7.83684248 Serb_Dalmatia
    8.17022032 Romanian_Southwest
    8.58434039 Bulgarian
    8.66631986 Montenegrin
    8.69246800 Romanian_Southeast
    8.74463264 Romanian
    8.89435214 Montenegrin
    8.92416383 Romanian_Northeast
    9.00093884 Moldova_South
    9.05539618 Bosnian
    9.59748405 Moldova_Centre
    10.03762422 Moldovan
    10.66059098 Bulgarian_2
    10.74653898 Croatian
    11.07283162 Moldova_North
    11.89062236 Romanian_Northwest
    12.25296699 Hungarian
    12.98481421 North_Macedonian-2
    13.05751508 Croat_Gorski_Kotar
    13.19417296 Gagauz
    13.23930889 Austrian_Carinthia
    13.41922129 Austrian_Styria
    13.49642545 Romanian_Central
    13.72637971 Albanian_Montenegro


    Target: OiS_bro
    Distance: 658.5851% / 6.58585140 | ADC: 0.25x
    37.0 Bosnian
    28.4 Serb_Dalmatia
    13.2 Albanian_Kosovo
    11.4 Romanian_Southwest
    9.6 Bulgarian
    0.4 Swiss_Italian


    Target: OiS_bro
    Distance: 678.2460% / 6.78245986 | ADC: 0.5x
    33.8 Serb_Dalmatia
    23.0 Romanian_Southwest
    17.8 Bulgarian
    16.2 Bosnian
    9.2 Serb

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    I have not studied Serbian results, but these look like they are falling well within the typical Serb range, to me.

    I could not resist, I modelled myself using my mother's coordinates and also your brother's coordinates -- with this combo I can be about 40% Serbian. An expected result since I am of course not 1/2 Serb, but 1/2 Hungarian.

    Target: Mr.G
    Distance: 666.5123% / 6.66512262
    60.6 Mr.G_mother
    39.4 OiS_bro
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.G View Post
    K13

    OiS_bro,22.4,29.75,19.07,10.09,16.91,0,0.42,0,0.3, 0.78,0,0.28,0

    Distance to: OiS_bro
    3.30168139 Vlach_Serbia
    3.66855557 Serb_EastSerbia
    3.71277524 Serb_SouthSerbia
    3.84754467 Serb_Vojvodina
    4.06099741 Serb_CentralSerbia
    4.33986175 Serb_CentralCroatia
    4.38974942 Serb_Lika
    4.41295819 Montenegro_SouthEast
    4.43963963 Moldovan_South
    4.44106969 Serb_BosanskaKrajina
    4.61552814 Serb_Dalmatia
    4.62273728 Romanian_Crişana
    4.67429139 Romanian_Moldavia_Central
    4.74546099 Romanian_Transylvania
    4.75987395 Romanian_Moldavia_South
    4.80023958 Serb_Herzegovina
    4.93487588 Serb_KosovoMetohija
    4.93984818 Serb_WestSerbia
    4.97341935 Montenegro_Old_Herzegovina
    5.06388191 Bulgarian_Northwestern
    5.07876954 Romanian_Banat
    5.22709288 Bosniak_Southeast
    5.42996317 Serb_NorthEastBosnia
    5.49923631 Bosniak_Sandzak_West
    5.60866294 Romanian_Oltenia

    Target: OiS_bro
    Distance: 240.8506% / 2.40850585 | ADC: 0.25x
    72.6 Vlach_Serbia
    18.0 Moldovan_South
    8.0 German_Brandenburg_Outlier(Beeskow)
    1.4 Montenegro_SouthEast

    Target: OiS_bro
    Distance: 265.3107% / 2.65310653 | ADC: 0.5x
    62.2 Vlach_Serbia
    29.8 Serb_CentralCroatia
    8.0 Moldovan_South

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    Again, I think fairly typical.

    I would be very surprised if your actual results varied significantly from your brother's, I think these should be fairly representative for you too.
    You're a legend, G.

    But tell me, how should I best explain your posts' info to my brother?
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    Quote Originally Posted by vikiingMallorcaSpain View Post
    Did u simulated your G25 already? When u want to use any calc click in my profile i have some G25 calculators
    I'm still trying to understand what the different calculators mean and which ones are most meaningful. There's a lot of info.
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