which countries you consider most and least "Balkan" discussion thread.

[Victor]

Looks beautiful. I'd like to visit Albania.

Does interior of Albania has such mild climate (except mountains obviously)? Interesting, I didn't know that.

It's like Herzegovina or what?

I dislike the way Albanian towns and cities look like, often worse than worst ex-USSR examples. Both apartment blocks and private housing.

[Jana]

I dislike the way Albanian towns and cities look like, often worse than worst ex-USSR examples. Both apartment blocks and private housing.

This town looks great tho, check the video. Berat too.

If you want ex USSR vibe on Adriatic coast, check Ploče surrounding nature is amazing tho.

[rothaer]

I don't why "only Ottoman influenced architecture = Balkan" (based on comments in this post). Why can't the other architectures present also count as Balkan? There are multiple architectural styles in the Balkans, not only Ottoman.

Because you will emphasise what distinguishes the Balkans most from your own point of view. For commentators from Anatolia it should then indeed be the Central European architecture. And I can imagine that it is.

[Mingle]

Show us your ranking (and points) please.

It can vary quite a bit by subregion. It also becomes a bit complicated when you consider that people can migrate, take influences with them, and not have influences from regions they aren't native to. The reign of each empire also varies in these locations, so it's a very simplified rating system. But here's a general overview:

1. North Macedonia = 12
1. Kosovo = 12
1. Eastern B&H = 12
4. Serbia = 12 (cause of Vojvodina)
5. Montenegro = 11.5
5. Bulgaria = 11.5
5. Albania = 11.5
8. Romania = 11
9. Western B&H = 9
9. Inland Croatia = 9
11. Greece = 8
12. Moldova = 8 (cause USSR)
13. Turkey = 5
12. Most of Hungary (Southern Transdanubia & Alfold) = 5
14. Coastal Croatia & Northwest Croatia = 4
15. Slovenia = 4
16. Northern Transdanubia = 3.5

Hungary tied with Turkey and above NW Croatia and Slovenia looks wrong, but it's not a perfect rating system cause it doesn't take into account how long the territories were ruled. And maybe we could switch the points for Ottomans and Yugoslavia to put Slovenia and the rest of Croatia above Hungary. Moldova also looks higher than it should be, I guess being part of the USSR instead of independent should've given them less points, but I forgot to take that into account.

[Victor]

This town looks great tho, check the video. Berat too.

If you want ex USSR vibe on Adriatic coast, check Ploče surrounding nature is amazing tho.

It's still not what I've meant, but the total lack of architectural and aesthetical personal taste of people in Albania, lots of housing looks just ugly. Plus you don't have that amount of ugly blocks like they do. Ex-Yu cities may have some weird examples but generally they're more or less balanced.

[Varda]

Looks beautiful. I'd like to visit Albania.

Does interior of Albania has such mild climate (except mountains obviously)? Interesting, I didn't know that.

It's like Herzegovina or what?

Med climate and influence in Albania penetrates deeper in the interior than for example in Montenegro. Because near of the most of Albanian coast there is no mountains. In Montenegro on the other hand mountains are close to almost entire coast.

[Occiput in Starlight]

Med climate and influence penetrates deeper in the interior than in Montenegro. Because near of the most of Albanian coast there is not mountains. In Montenegro on the other hand mountains are close near almost entire coast.

Great image.

[The Nameless]

Least Balkan countries imo are Austria, Hungary, Turkey

[Occiput in Starlight]

It can vary quite a bit by subregion. It also becomes a bit complicated when you consider that people can migrate, take influences with them, and not have influences from regions they aren't native to. The reign of each empire also varies in these locations, so it's a very simplified rating system. But here's a general overview:

1. North Macedonia = 12
1. Kosovo = 12
1. Eastern B&H = 12
4. Serbia = 12 (cause of Vojvodina)
5. Montenegro = 11.5
5. Bulgaria = 11.5
5. Albania = 11.5
8. Romania = 11
9. Eastern B&H = 9
9. Inland Croatia = 9
11. Greece = 8
11. Moldova = 8
13. Turkey = 5
12. Most of Hungary (Southern Transdanubia & Alfold) = 5
14. Coastal Croatia & Northwest Croatia = 4
15. Slovenia = 4
16. Northern Transdanubia = 3.5

Hungary tied with Turkey and above NW Croatia and Slovenia looks wrong, but it's not a perfect rating system cause it doesn't take into account how long the territories were ruled. And maybe we could switch the points for Ottomans and Yugoslavia to put Slovenia and the rest of Croatia above Hungary. Moldova also looks higher than it should be, I guess being part of the USSR instead of independent should've given them less points, but I forgot to take that into account.

My perception. As posted earlier, I am privileging the South Slavic, Orthodox and Ottomanic:

N. Macedonia
Bulgaria
Serbia
Montenegro
BiH
Romania
Albania
Croatia
Greece
Slovenia
Moldova
Hungary
Turkey
Austria

[Jana]

Because you will emphasise what distinguishes the Balkans most from your own point of view. For commentators from Anatolia it should then indeed be the Central European architecture. And I can imagine that it is.

Here's my mother's birthtown in southern Croatia, I don't see how it's Balkan:

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And here's my father town in central Croatia, can't see how's that Balkan either:

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