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    Default Farmers protests over Ukrainian grain FINALLY gave some result

    The issue of low quality Ukrainian grain flooding the markets of east EU countries is a loud issue in some countries, for example Bulgaria, Slovakia or Poland. Local farmers had trouble with competing against them especially when Ukrainian grain didn't have to follow EU regulations to go through.

    A little bit more here(but really a little bit)
    https://www.polskieradio.pl/395/7786...-food-products

    There were massive protests of farmers, they ended up with ban on Ukrainian grain till the end of June. Unfortunatelly, most likely it's only the political move since the elections will be held this year.

    Ukrainian government starts to use it's victim position to push through the worst product no one would want, it gets annoying to see Ukraine DEMANDING some weapon, some priviledges using their position as their strength. Poland is willing to help Ukraine but such actions of Ukrainians make the situation worse for them. Also the ban happened way too late, now it won't change much a hard situation of our farmers, why would Poland take care of Ukrainian farmers before the Polish ones? It is crazy

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    Even if it’s a tardive decision, it’s better than nothing. Good for you! Romania faces same problems with Ukrainian cereals, but no measure were taken so far to stop their import (even if local farmers have protested as well). Some of these cereals are so toxic, even domestic animals refuse to consume them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zohor View Post
    why would Poland take care of Ukrainian farmers before the Polish ones? It is crazy
    I asked myself the same question in here. But then again, I kinda know the answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zohor View Post
    There were massive protests of farmers,

    There were no mass farmers' protests.

    Only the information about the grain spread so far that even the treacherous government could not hide it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Zohor View Post
    why would Poland take care of Ukrainian farmers before the Polish ones? It is crazy
    Poland has not been ruled by Poles for over 300 years.
    There is no Poland. There is only her mystification. Shes means nothing internationally.

    You will be surprised many times by the actions of the government and our "friends" from Kiev.
    They do what they do because they know they can.

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    There are no Ukrainian grains, there's Cargill, Monsanto, and DuPont. What Eastern Europe government could stand against these three corporations?

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    Zelensky is not happy.

    Towards the countries that have placed restrictions on Ukrainian agricultural products, Zelensky had fiery words: "Any restriction on our exports is absolutely unacceptable now because it strengthens the capabilities of the Russian aggressor". The Ukrainian president therefore said he was "disappointed" by the "severe, even cruel, protectionist measures" launched by Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania and Bulgaria, which he called for their removal "as soon as possible".
    https://www.efanews.eu/item/31337-gr...-is-cruel.html

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    You won't notice how the "buy our grain" will turn into "starve for us" or "die for us". Ukraine is your new COVID, when you're "all in the same boat".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomadian90' View Post
    There were no mass farmers' protests.

    Only the information about the grain spread so far that even the treacherous government could not hide it.




    Poland has not been ruled by Poles for over 300 years.
    There is no Poland. There is only her mystification. Shes means nothing internationally.

    You will be surprised many times by the actions of the government and our "friends" from Kiev.
    They do what they do because they know they can.
    Is this more or less true for any other country?
    "Virtue grows stronger at the wound"
    "There is safety in discrimination"
    "James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the 12 tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting." James 1:1

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrus View Post
    There are no Ukrainian grains, there's Cargill, Monsanto, and DuPont. What Eastern Europe government could stand against these three corporations?
    Does this mean it will happen again?
    "Virtue grows stronger at the wound"
    "There is safety in discrimination"
    "James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the 12 tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting." James 1:1

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrus View Post
    There are no Ukrainian grains, there's Cargill, Monsanto, and DuPont.
    So, Zelensky is the “spokesman” for these multinational corporations it seems.
    Cargill is considered to be one of the largest private international investors in Ukraine. They're now also involved in exporting the crops from there.

    Ten companies control 71% of the agricultural market in Ukraine, Ukrainian Grain Association (UGA) statistics show. In addition to the Ukrainian oligarchy, multinational corporations such as Archer Daniels Midland (ADM), Bunge, Cargill, Louis Dreyfus, and the Chinese state-owned company COFCO, are all active players.
    In recent years, international agro-industrial giants including Cargill and Bunge have invested millions of dollars in increased production capacity in the country. Extremely fertile soils, cheap land and a strategic location between export markets in Europe, China and the Middle East have also put Ukraine in the spotlight of land investors.
    https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/our...as-the-amazon/

    This is an old report by the Oakland Institute economic observatory but shows, these corporations infiltrated Ukraine years ago.
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    By 2013, UkrLandFarming was the largest land bank in all of Ukraine, with more than 670,000 ha total of land. 4 In January 2014, in the midst of deadly protests and just six weeks before the deposition of then President Viktor Yanukovych, Cargill bought a five percent share in UkrLandFarming. According to news reports, the $200 million deal was intended to “boost exports to China.” Although the deal was downplayed by Cargill, it undoubtedly gave the company an entry point to Ukrainian land. [...]

    Alongside land, opportunities in Ukraine for the development, production, and use of agricultural inputs like seeds, agrochemicals, and fertilizers have attracted investment by agribusiness giants Monsanto, Cargill, and DuPont. While all three companies have been in Ukraine for quite some time, their investments in the country have grown significantly over the past few years.
    For instance, Cargill has been in Ukraine for more than 20 years. Their activities include, but are not limited to, the sale of pesticides, seeds, and fertilizers. In recent years, they have expanded their agricultural investments to include additional grain storage, an animal nutrition company, and a stake in UkrLandFarming. Monsanto has had operations in Ukraine since 1992, and has a focus on seeds and agrochemicals.

    News reports indicate that in 2012, Monsanto’s Ukraine team doubled in size, and in March 2014 – just weeks after President Yanukovych was deposed – the company invested $140 million in building a new seed plant. Finally, DuPont has also expanded its investments in Ukraine of late. In June 2013, the company announced that it too would be investing in a new seed plant “to meet increasing demand in the region.”

    Jeff Rowe, DuPont’s regional director for Europe, noted that the company would be working hard to produce seeds with resistance to drought and heat stress for the country. An extension of this seed facility was completed in September 2014 to support “increased customer demand for Pioneer brand corn hybrids in Ukraine.”
    https://www.oaklandinstitute.org/sit...fUkraine_0.pdf

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    There was an event taking place between 26th -28th of April in Bucharest (EuroGrainHub Exchange & Forum ) where it was debated how to promote Ukrainian agricultural exports. Among the participants, there were representatives of Cargill and representatives of Ukraine and the US State Department of Agriculture, the Romanian Minister of Agriculture and Rural Development, etc.

    https://eurograinevents.com/#about

    According to a source, this year Ukraine will produce more grains and sunflower oil. Plus, they still have stocks from last year. They will probably export them just like before into E.U.

    https://www.voanews.com/a/us-europe-...s/7067486.html
    Last edited by Cybele; 05-11-2023 at 03:44 PM.

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