French vs. Welsh

[White Swan]

Am I just more Welsh than I am French, or is Welsh so much easier to sing than French???
(From a monolingual American)

~ please feel free to answer no matter your heritage or background ~

#1 is the Welsh
#2 is the French

#1: Welsh -

https://youtu.be/y9jaJ_To8y8

Lasairfhionna; One Morning in June...

One morning in June agus mé ag dul ag spaisteoireacht


Casadh liom cailín ba ró-dheas a gnaoi

She was so handsome gur thit mé i ngrá léithe


Is d'fhága sí arraing i gceartlár mo chroí

I asked her her name agus cad é an ruaig bheannaithe


Chas ins an áit thú, a ghrá ghil mo chroí?


My heart it'll break if you don't come along with me

Slán agus beannacht le buaireamh an tsaoil

Ó cailín deas óg mé ó cheantar na farraige


Tógaidh go cneasta mé i dtosach mo shaoil

I being so airy is é 'sea ba chleachtach liom


That made my own parents and me disagree

A chuisle 's a stór, dá n'éistfeá liom tamall beag


I'll tell you story a b'ait le do chroí

That I'm a young man who's totally in love with you

Surely my heart is from roguery free

Oh go, you bold rogue and you're trying to flatter me


B'fhearr éan ins dá láimh ná éan ar an gcraoibh

Sure 
I've neither wheat, potatoes or anything


Ná fiú an phluid leaba bheadh tharainn san oíche

Ó ceannóidh mé tae agus gléasfad in aice sin


Gúna English cotton den fhaisiún atá daor

So powder your hair, love, and come away 'long with me

Slán agus beannacht le buaireamh an tsaoil

There's an alehouse nearby, agus beidh muid go maidin ann

If you're satisfied, a ghrá ghil mo chroí

Early next morning, we'll send for the clergyman


Beidh muidne ceangailte i nganfhios don tsaol

Ó beidh muid ag ól fad 's a mhairfeas an t-airgead

Then we will take the road home with all speed

When the reckoning is paid, who cares for the landlady?


Slán is beannacht le buaireamh an tsaoil

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#2: Canadian French -

https://youtu.be/N1AiazG74GU

Stompin' Tom Conners; Canadian Lumberjack...

Quand on voit une monture, un pistolet, un lasso
On s´imagine l´aventure le cowboy au grand chapeau
Quand on voit les épinettes, une hache et un box-shaw
On r´connaît sous sa casquette le bûch´ron du Canada

Oh é il est un gars capable
Ce canadien, le bûcheron
Oh é il est infatiguable
Bon travailleur et gai luron
Bon travailleur et gai luron

If I Sang about a saddle with a lasso and a gun,
You'd thing about a cowboy beneath the prairie sun
But I sing about a pine tree with a bucksaw and an axe
I sing about a big man, The Canadian Lumberjack.

Oh Hey! To the happy workin' bushman, Of Canada
He's a lumberjack
Oh Hey! To the master of the bushland
He's born to*live, By the big bold axe
He's born to live, By the big bold axe

Au grand matin il se lève et prend un bon déjeûner
Devant une crêpe ou bien des fèves grand spécial du cuisinier
Il n´a pas peur de l´ouvrage dès sept heures il est au bois
Il faut avoir du courage et c´gars-là il n´en manque pas

Oh é il est un gars capable
Ce canadien, le bûcheron
Oh é il est infatiguable
Bon travailleur et gai luron
Bon travailleur et gai luron

With a whopper giant breakfast, of pancakes, beans and mush
And then you'll hear him whistle all mornin' through the bush
And when it comes to hard*work there's just no turnin' back
That son of a gun ironman, The Canadian Lumberjack

Oh Hey! To the happy workin' bushman, Of Canada
He's a lumberjack
Oh Hey! To the master of the bushland
He's born to live, By the big bold axe
He's born to live, By the big bold axe

Et pour passer la soirée il cause avec ses copains
Disant que sa bien-aimée l´épous´ra l´printemps prochain

And when his day is over, he'll talk with many chums
He'll sing about the sweetheart, He'll wed when springtime comes

Oh é il est un gars capable
Ce canadien, le bûcheron
Oh é il est infatiguable
Bon travailleur et gai luron
Bon travailleur et gai luron


Disclaimer: I did start Welsh music a few years sooner, but it just seems the French takes so much more effort to pick up

[NSXD60]

Surprising with the huge amount of French words in English that you find Welsh easier. Anyway, above is an old Cajun standard from 1928 about the singer himself, Mayuse Lafleur, who was abandoned by his mother at six months of age, called "Oh, Mame, éyoù toi t'es" (Oh, Mom, where are you).

[Petalpusher]

From what i heard, for Americans it's easier to learn Spanish, maybe because they are more exposed to it regularly. But it's easier for Brits to learn or at least understand/guess French, eventhough there are so much (fake) friend words.






Our biggest pet peeve is how to pronounce those damn English words, really feels like mouth acrobatics:

[White Swan]

From what i heard, for Americans it's easier to learn Spanish, maybe because they are more exposed to it regularly. But it's easier for Brits to learn or at least understand/guess French, eventhough there are so much (fake) friend words.






Our biggest pet peeve is how to pronounce those damn English words, really feels like mouth acrobatics:

I always was told these two things about Spanish
1. It's easy!
2. You're gonna have to know it! (Har har har)
The 1st serving as encouragement to accept the 2nd. Propaganda, basically.

I didn't find Spanish to be any easier than Welsh, French, German, or Afrikaans. But I am higher than average in linguistics (I shamefuly still only speak English though, because I spend my time on other endeavors).

I will listen to the videos when I get a chance, I love those, thanks!

[White Swan]

Surprising with the huge amount of French words in English that you find Welsh easier. Anyway, above is an old Cajun standard from 1928 about the singer himself, Mayuse Lafleur, who was abandoned by his mother at six months of age, called "Oh, Mame, éyoù toi t'es" (Oh, Mom, where are you).

I think it's that the pronunciation doesn't make as much sense to me naturally. The French pronunciation is harder to mimic, so I think that slows me down. I'm curious if there is a genetic component to that or if it's just because I am a native English speaker and Welsh sounds are closer.

[Albannach]

Am I just more Welsh than I am French, or is Welsh so much easier to sing than French???
(From a monolingual American)

~ please feel free to answer no matter your heritage or background ~

#1 is the Welsh
#2 is the French

#1: Welsh -

https://youtu.be/y9jaJ_To8y8

Lasairfhionna; One Morning in June...

One morning in June agus mé ag dul ag spaisteoireacht


Casadh liom cailín ba ró-dheas a gnaoi

She was so handsome gur thit mé i ngrá léithe


Is d'fhága sí arraing i gceartlár mo chroí

I asked her her name agus cad é an ruaig bheannaithe


Chas ins an áit thú, a ghrá ghil mo chroí?


My heart it'll break if you don't come along with me

Slán agus beannacht le buaireamh an tsaoil

Ó cailín deas óg mé ó cheantar na farraige


Tógaidh go cneasta mé i dtosach mo shaoil

I being so airy is é 'sea ba chleachtach liom


That made my own parents and me disagree

A chuisle 's a stór, dá n'éistfeá liom tamall beag


I'll tell you story a b'ait le do chroí

That I'm a young man who's totally in love with you

Surely my heart is from roguery free

Oh go, you bold rogue and you're trying to flatter me


B'fhearr éan ins dá láimh ná éan ar an gcraoibh

Sure 
I've neither wheat, potatoes or anything


Ná fiú an phluid leaba bheadh tharainn san oíche

Ó ceannóidh mé tae agus gléasfad in aice sin


Gúna English cotton den fhaisiún atá daor

So powder your hair, love, and come away 'long with me

Slán agus beannacht le buaireamh an tsaoil

There's an alehouse nearby, agus beidh muid go maidin ann

If you're satisfied, a ghrá ghil mo chroí

Early next morning, we'll send for the clergyman


Beidh muidne ceangailte i nganfhios don tsaol

Ó beidh muid ag ól fad 's a mhairfeas an t-airgead

Then we will take the road home with all speed

When the reckoning is paid, who cares for the landlady?


Slán is beannacht le buaireamh an tsaoil

https://lyricstranslate.com

------------------------------------------------------

#2: Canadian French -

https://youtu.be/N1AiazG74GU

Stompin' Tom Conners; Canadian Lumberjack...

Quand on voit une monture, un pistolet, un lasso
On s´imagine l´aventure le cowboy au grand chapeau
Quand on voit les épinettes, une hache et un box-shaw
On r´connaît sous sa casquette le bûch´ron du Canada

Oh é il est un gars capable
Ce canadien, le bûcheron
Oh é il est infatiguable
Bon travailleur et gai luron
Bon travailleur et gai luron

If I Sang about a saddle with a lasso and a gun,
You'd thing about a cowboy beneath the prairie sun
But I sing about a pine tree with a bucksaw and an axe
I sing about a big man, The Canadian Lumberjack.

Oh Hey! To the happy workin' bushman, Of Canada
He's a lumberjack
Oh Hey! To the master of the bushland
He's born to*live, By the big bold axe
He's born to live, By the big bold axe

Au grand matin il se lève et prend un bon déjeûner
Devant une crêpe ou bien des fèves grand spécial du cuisinier
Il n´a pas peur de l´ouvrage dès sept heures il est au bois
Il faut avoir du courage et c´gars-là il n´en manque pas

Oh é il est un gars capable
Ce canadien, le bûcheron
Oh é il est infatiguable
Bon travailleur et gai luron
Bon travailleur et gai luron

With a whopper giant breakfast, of pancakes, beans and mush
And then you'll hear him whistle all mornin' through the bush
And when it comes to hard*work there's just no turnin' back
That son of a gun ironman, The Canadian Lumberjack

Oh Hey! To the happy workin' bushman, Of Canada
He's a lumberjack
Oh Hey! To the master of the bushland
He's born to live, By the big bold axe
He's born to live, By the big bold axe

Et pour passer la soirée il cause avec ses copains
Disant que sa bien-aimée l´épous´ra l´printemps prochain

And when his day is over, he'll talk with many chums
He'll sing about the sweetheart, He'll wed when springtime comes

Oh é il est un gars capable
Ce canadien, le bûcheron
Oh é il est infatiguable
Bon travailleur et gai luron
Bon travailleur et gai luron


Disclaimer: I did start Welsh music a few years sooner, but it just seems the French takes so much more effort to pick up

That isn't Welsh, it's Irish, and the song has a mixture of Gaeilge and English lyrics.