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    The Viking longship had a huge impact on ship design throughout Europe; ships = economics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davystayn View Post
    The Viking longship had a huge impact on ship design throughout Europe; ships = economics.


    Till XV-XVI century 80% of the ships and boats built in all EUROPE were Venetians.. Almost 90% of the English ship-boat were built in Venice ( Venice made a lot of money selling its boat and ships).. John Cabot ( Venetian Giovanni Cabotto ) used VENICE BOAT-SHIPS to reach Canada for English King..



    Arsenale VENICE





    The Venetian Arsenal (Italian: Arsenale di Venezia) is a complex of former shipyards and armories clustered together in the city of Venice in northern Italy. Owned by the state, the Arsenal was responsible for the bulk of the Venetian republic's naval power from the late Middle Ages to the early modern period. It was "one of the earliest large-scale industrial enterprises in history".

    Construction of the Arsenal began around 1104, during Venice's republican era. It became the largest industrial complex in Europe before the Industrial Revolution, spanning an area of about 45 hectares (110 acres), or about fifteen percent of Venice. Surrounded by a 2-mile (3.2 km) rampart, laborers and shipbuilders regularly worked within the Arsenal, building ships that sailed from the city's port. With high walls shielding the Arsenal from public view and guards protecting its perimeter, different areas of the Arsenal each produced a particular prefabricated ship part or other maritime implement, such as munitions, rope, and rigging. These parts could then be assembled into a ship in as little as one day.

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    I guess longships were more influential as ocean going vessels, design didn't change from the 7th/8th century. You can clearly see how longships influenced medieval vessels.

    You are also totally right regarding the Venetians, although I never they were influential to that extent.

    John Cabot btw is a celebrated figure in Bristol, having sailed from there to Newfoundland, many pubs, street and places names are named after him, including a 50ft tower in his name on a hill in the centre of the city.

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    Vikings had a negative impact on the economy of Western Europe and a positive impact on the economy of Eastern Europe (intermediaries). In Eastern Europe they met similar savages (Slavs and Finns) and assimilated well there. In Western Europe, savages were not liked. There was an ancient Roman civilization, and Christianity came.

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    They conquered the british people. If they never conquered the british people, maybe britains history would be drastically different after those events. Maybe they would have never become a superpower.

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    fashion impact. i saw so many mjolnir necklaces in spain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davystayn View Post
    I guess longships were more influential as ocean going vessels, design didn't change from the 7th/8th century. You can clearly see how longships influenced medieval vessels.

    You are also totally right regarding the Venetians, although I never they were influential to that extent.

    John Cabot btw is a celebrated figure in Bristol, having sailed from there to Newfoundland, many pubs, street and places names are named after him, including a 50ft tower in his name on a hill in the centre of the city.

    This is one of the tipycal ancient roman boat..( long before medieval time...)



    Ancient Roman boats..( Latin square sail )



    The ancient romans ( also Phoencians 500 years before Rome ) had naval trade routes as far as India (there were also roman ports) and as far as Indochina. They sailed around Africa and then up towards Arabia Iran India Indochina.


    NERONE EMPEROR BOAT

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    No one ever associates ancient Rome with the ships that sailed the seas and oceans. Sailing around Africa was just as challenging as crossing the Atlantic ocean.
    One of the great conquests of the Romans was the total elimination of the pirates who terrorized the seas and coasts of the Mediterranean..
    The Romans managed to eliminate the pirates thanks to the enormous naval fleet they had.

    Ostia ( port of Rome ) had 2 km of docks for ships..

    In one day 200 hundreds boat were being load and unload..




    One of many bars and ristorants hotels of OSTIA during ancient roman time..




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    Who are the people who believe that the Vikings have made some contribution to European civilization?
    .. Apart from some fanatical nazi supremacists there are also kids from the third world, like India Pakistan Nigeria Bangladesh China Singapore (?), convinced that European civilization has had its roots in viking society...
    The white supremacist nazis need to reinvent history.. but why do the colored kids of the third world believe the lies told by these nazi supremacists?

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    Quote Originally Posted by renaissance12 View Post
    No one ever associates ancient Rome with the ships that sailed the seas and oceans. Sailing around Africa was just as challenging as crossing the Atlantic ocean.
    One of the great conquests of the Romans was the total elimination of the pirates who terrorized the seas and coasts of the Mediterranean..
    The Romans managed to eliminate the pirates thanks to the enormous naval fleet they had.

    Ostia ( port of Rome ) had 2 km of docks for ships..

    In one day 200 hundreds boat were being load and unload..




    One of many bars and ristorants hotels of OSTIA during ancient roman time..




    The romans learned their ship building from phonecian ships.
    Roman ship building is thanks to phonecians.
    They did it during the punic wars

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