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    Quote Originally Posted by Vandor View Post
    Here's rapid baptismal allowed only for those who are close to death or their life is endangered. In case if there's no priest nearby, ANY Orthodox can baptize the endangered person who's conscious enough to confirm he wants to be baptized, by sipping water or even sand over him if there's no water, three times, with words "In a name of Father, Son and Holy Spirit". In the case person survives, the only he needs is Chrismation in Church, no second baptismal for sure.
    Interesting. I think it makes sense although none of this is so much respected here anymore. A friend of mine got baptized in hurry in a day by the priest himself cause he had no time to look for a godfather. He was supposed to be a godfather himself in the following days so he did everything fast. He was a Christian but of a different confession. The friends who asked him to be the godfather of their child didn't know he was not an orthodox, they found out a few days before their son baptism day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laly View Post
    Stop your lies! You don't need to receive the First Communion or the Sacrament of Confirmation to marry a Catholic in a Catholic ceremony, if you are a non-Catholic Christian. You do that only if you are Catholic. But yes, you need to be informed by the Catholic priest before the marriage, to be taught about the meaning of the marriage in Catholicism, about family life and that kind of stuff.
    Lady, I'm not laying. My cousin had a very hard time to marry her catholic husband. It took almost a year to finish all these church preparations. You can't just marry a catholic like you do in the orthodox church. Here you just book a day and you go get married. If the priest has time, he marries you tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seya View Post
    Lady, I'm not laying. My cousin had a very hard time to marry her catholic husband. It took almost a year to finish all these church preparations. You can't just marry a catholic like you do in the orthodox church. Here you just book a day and you go get married. If the priest has time, he marries you tomorrow.
    For my preparation to marriage, it also took one year with the priest, during which we were taught a lot of things, concerning Catholicism, the Catholic marriage, family life. And we are both, my husband and myself, Catholics. I think this long preparation to marriage, usual for Catholic weddings, whether they are mixed marriages with non-Catholic Christians or not, is an excellent thing.

    But you still don't have to receive the sacraments you mentioned to marry a Catholic in a Catholic ceremony if you are a non-Catholic Christian. They are only for Catholics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laly View Post
    For my preparation to marriage, it also took one year with the priest, during which we were taught a lot of things, concerning Catholicism, the Catholic marriage, family life. And we are both, my husband and myself, Catholics. I think this long preparation to marriage, usual for Catholic weddings, whether they are mixed marriages with non-Catholic Christians or not, is an excellent thing.

    But you still don't have to receive the sacraments you mentioned to marry a Catholic in a Catholic ceremony if you are a non-Catholic Christian. They are only for Catholics.
    Well she is catholic now...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seya View Post
    Well she is catholic now...
    Maybe the priest convinced her to convert. But it is not mandatory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laly View Post
    Maybe the priest convinced her to convert. But it is not mandatory.
    Yes, pretty much "convinced" her cause it was supposed to be easier this way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Methuselah View Post
    Discuss please. Communism played the role and also Eastern life is harsh with all the attacks from the Mongols and Turks but does Orthodox world differ also in mentality? I have nothing against Slavs or Orthodox church, also many great minds were Orthodox Christians of some sort, so don't get offended.
    The majority of Orthodox countries did not experience or went through any form of Renaissance or had a very short-lived period of enlightenment that came in only in the middle of the nineteenth century, almost two to three centuries later than the West and was promptly brought to an end with the World Wars and Communism. The Orthodox regions were among the last to abolish serfdom, something completely obsolete and medievalesque but which lasted in Russia, for example, until 1861, while in Portugal for comparison it has not existed practically since the year 1400.
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    Every Easter time we visited our Orthodox relatives they served pashka. It was strange ritual material, but doesn't taste bad. Religious things and mindset are very different things nowadays.

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    Orthodox countries don’t belong to the West, but to the Sharq(East). They didn’t go through the same historical milestones like many Western countries.

    Though, Russian literature is incredible and without their existence European literature would be visibly poorer. And I don’t need to talk about the importance of Greeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vandor View Post
    South Americans often seem to lack basic knowledges. I dunno any European Catholics who have no clue about Orthodoxy, no matter negative or positive atittude.
    I think no catholic knows what orthodox is, unless it's some Uni teacher or priest maybe.


    Quote Originally Posted by Seya View Post
    You observed wrong. If you mean the Russian member, they're against everything west European. Not sure if they have something against Catholics. Apart from that I don't think I've seen any comment from other easterners. The Orthodox church accepts marriages between Catholics and Orthodox, something that the Catholic church does not accept.
    There. For example no catholic will ever know that.

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