David Icke's interview with an African shaman

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.. you probably know the guy..

.. for those who don't know David Icke , he's one of the most controversial anti- conspiracy-speakers out there..

His theory about the New World Order conspiracy includes the presence of a Reptilian-humanoid race..

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.. may one think about that what one wants, here is a video, a bit old , of him talking to an African shaman..

Like I said, may one think about Icke' s theories what one wants, what I find interesting about the vid is...


While other anti- NWO speakers are often racialists, Icke takes more of an 'international' approach.. With phrases somewhat like "Africa and the world ought to be free..." etc . .

The second thing, even the African shaman talks somewhat anti- Western during the alleged 'conspiracy-
theory video'... It starts with lifting his own kin ( Africans ) up with claims like 'we had astrology , astronomy like Europeans long ago too..' etc....

Anyway, what I find quite ironic is that, while also claiming more or less that (((Africans too had a civilisation))) , he recounts alleged "dreadful rituals " which the so- called 'keepers of African secrets' had to go through in order to become initiates... like quote "cooking and eating a human hand " .....


Now, the part of "cooking/ eating a human hand " is pretty much the only of these alleged 'dreadful rituals' which he names by name but he also says "in order to become an initiate into keepers of African knowledge one has to pass through rituals which I cannot even name here...."

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.. hmm... concerning the above..


Icke certainly takes an 'international approach' with his alleged anti NWO thinking, the African shaman doesn't come along very Westerner- friendly and he certainly tries to 'style-up' Africans with his claims about their alleged past....

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Here are two beginning vids, the whole interview/ docu is available online on youtube in either the complete format or by just checking the playlist for the vids I post . .






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.. what do you think..?

By the way, the footage is a lot of years old and the African guy is already dead... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vusamazulu_Credo_Mutwa

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.. opinions ?

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.. 2 critique- points on my part....

As I said, the African shaman comes across as not very fond of the West and they both talk about alleged extraterrestrial influence on Earth....

Number one , gotta say , Icke is very brave to go out with an opinion like this.... I probably thought he could figure that when he says "extraterrestrial reptos are behind this and that.. " that people may come to the idea he is using code and means "jews did that and that.. " ( which has happened ) .. Or, given he really means "repto- extraterrestrials" that people maybe wouldn't take him seriously...

But.. guess what..?.

There truly is a theory around about reptilian aliens interfering with the happenings here on earth.. this theory has been around longer than Icke already...


.. may one make of that what one wants..


Second, as I said, Icke is not a so-called racialist anti-NWOer..

The African shaman talks pretty bad about the West and how they had allegedly treated his kin.. He lifts Africans up ".. we had astrology .. astronomy" and whatnot.. But at the same time recounts "dreadful rituals" which initiates into "ancient African knowledge" have to pass through . . . like acts of cannibalism, when he talks about quote "cooking and eating a human hand, fresh from the grave .. "... Is it just me or does this re-telling of "ancient African practices which people have to go through to prove they are trustworthy over Europeans .. " more or less prove the true savagery of Africans.. ? Just sayin ' . .


My 2 cents . .

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[Ellethwyn]

I have reoccurring nightmares about African Shamans... so I am going to pass on watching those videos.

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. . soooo.. ^ ^ :-))) .. what the hell do aliens have to search for among us..?!!





.. maybe erect a wall around planet earth..?

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[Sheppey]

.. you probably know the guy..

Not only do I know of him I own a couple of his books but I never finished any of them. I think reptile is a code word for Jew :

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I have reoccurring nightmares about African Shamans... so I am going to pass on watching those videos.

.. to tell the truth... I kind of felt like a voodoo-curse had been placed on me after watchin' that.....
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.. just kiddin' ... However I admit that if it was his wish to present Africans in a positive light , maybe he shouldn't have talked about 'dreadful African rituals '..

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Not only do I know of him I own a couple of his books but I never finished any of them. I think reptile is a code word for Jew :

Well.. Icke himself denied that that was the case , however...

As is a prominent slogan in the conspiracy- theory world..


"Trust no one.."

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.. if I might give my personal opinion concerning all that..

First , concerning the question about extraterrestrials / a possible interference on earth.... To tell the truth, I think it would be close to megalomania to think that within a cosmos of millions of star-systems that "man is on his own ".. - - - - > Just talking possibility here..


Concerning possible interference on Earth..

If, read that , if extraterrestrials exist and they would even have interfered here on Earth.. 2 things... If they had done it in the ancient world a ) we certainly wouldn't read old scrolls saying "And then people from another star came in a spaceship etc etc " since , in the ancient world people wouldn't have understood it the right way.. b ) since at those times probably no one would have understood it the right way, it might even have happened without anyone today having a full conclusion ( .. !. ) .. I suppose that's where so-called "myths " come from..