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    Quote Originally Posted by Vandor View Post
    I'm surprised with Georgia and Armenia as promiscuity and life out of marriage are not very common there. Very few would want a non-virgin girl in Georgia, maybe just in capital.
    Because the supposed social conservatism of less affluent countries is often sentimental, hypocritical and outdated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Because the supposed social conservatism of less affluent countries is often sentimental, hypocritical and outdated.
    A lot of HIV spread in Eastern Europe, but particularly in the USSR, was due to inadequate health care facilities. It's not just promiscuity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vandor View Post
    Russian federation has it high due to exact regions, especially those Siberian ones with significant part of aboriginal populace. Those regions pump up our alcoholism, drug addiction, criminal, HIV stats, for example Tuva republic (it's Tuvin homogenous) has worst Brazilian crime and homicide rates, alcohol and drug abuse.
    Why are Tuvans so violent/criminal for example? It surprises me so curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dviz View Post
    A lot of HIV spread in Eastern Europe, but particularly in the USSR, was due to inadequate health care facilities. It's not just promiscuity.
    True, but the latter element cannot be discounted either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    Why are Tuvans so violent/criminal for example? It surprises me so curious.
    Tuvans are clanish nomads who settled down to villages and towns during totally alien Soviet period + got introduced to alcohol while having no genes and ferments to process it properly. Living very enclosed, without any chance to integrate in exterior bigger/urban societies. It happens much less with Buryats or Yakuts, because part of them live the old nomad lifestyle or they live the urban life between other ethnic groups (Russians, Tatars etc) and don't concentrate in the cauldrons of no hope. They're bad with alco, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    Why are Tuvans so violent/criminal for example? It surprises me so curious.
    I won't make Russians (and other non native whites) of Siberia some kind of saints, there's enough of very specific populace which can be named white trash. Much less than in 90s or even USSR times (when lots of ex-prisoners settled down there), but still. It doesn't mean they're all lowlives, but just bigger percent of them than in other regions of Russia. Like everywhere you have normal people down there. Smaller towns disappear there because adequate people leave and marginals do not reproduce but just die off. There's Tomsk, Omsk, Irkutsk, Kemerovo, Krasnoyarsk and few other cities which will exist, while the numerous smaller towns and villages which were often related to nearby prisons and camps will finally disappear in a natural way. Anyway, everything i've mentioned is incomparable to some 1997 when life down there was extreme, as some kind of Brazil of the North.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Bingo.
    Btw here HIV is related more to heroin addicts than to unprotected sex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    And decadent woke (ex) Protestant Britain has fewer than unwoke (or rather, less woke) Catholic countries like Ireland, France and Spain.
    It has little to do with either unwokeness or promiscuity in France. Paris concentrates most of the gays in the country, which creates a snowball effect as they all expose themselves constantly more to VIH than if they were scattered everywhere. It's 10 times higher than in other regions. The other big factor are SSA, women in particular, im guessing because of family reunions policies since black males rappatriate the women they went to find in Africa (VIH rates are again a dozen times higher there). From vih.org:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Petalpusher View Post
    It has little to do with either unwokeness or promiscuity in France. Paris concentrates most of the gays in the country, which creates a snowball effect as they all expose themselves constantly more to VIH than if they were scattered everywhere. It's 10 times higher than in other regions. The other big factor are SSA, women in particular, im guessing because of family reunions policies since black males rappatriate the women they went to find in Africa (VIH rates are again a dozen times higher there). From vih.org:

    Memo to Petalpusher: London in particular, and to an extent lots of other British cities too, also have lots of gays and Africans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vandor View Post
    Btw here HIV is related more to heroin addicts than to unprotected sex.
    That is still decadence.

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