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    Default Which forum members have become more left-leaning (or at least politically centrist) over time?

    Although relatively rare, there are some examples of forum members who have shifted leftwards (or at least to the centre) IMHO. Such examples include Sardinia Atlantis, Longbowman, Cernunnos, Catarinense. Other possible and more debatable examples include Juan Lacas, whose attitudes towards race in particular have softened considerably compared to when he first joined, and is now also an ardent critic of US imperialism, as well as Teutone, who over time ditched much of his love of capitalism and White nationalism. (B01AB20 also claimed to have softened up when he returned to the forum in 2021, but he still has his fair share of angry right-wing moments).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Although relatively rare, there are some examples of forum members who have shifted leftwards (or at least to the centre) IMHO. Such examples include Sardinia Atlantis, Longbowman, Cernunnos, Catarinense. Other possible and more debatable examples include Juan Lacas, whose attitudes towards race in particular have softened considerably compared to when he first joined, and is now also an ardent critic of US imperialism, as well as Teutone, who over time ditched much of his love of capitalism and White nationalism. (B01AB20 also claimed to have softened up when he returned to the forum in 2021, but he still has his fair share of angry right-wing moments).
    You clearly are not in contact with Teutone, because it's the exact opposite of what you're describing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeno View Post
    You clearly are not in contact with Teutone, because it's the exact opposite of what you're describing.
    Well he hasn't posted since January, but there was definitely a change during his last year or so in this forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Although relatively rare, there are some examples of forum members who have shifted leftwards (or at least to the centre) IMHO. Such examples include Sardinia Atlantis, Longbowman, Cernunnos, Catarinense. Other possible and more debatable examples include Juan Lacas, whose attitudes towards race in particular have softened considerably compared to when he first joined, and is now also an ardent critic of US imperialism, as well as Teutone, who over time ditched much of his love of capitalism and White nationalism. (B01AB20 also claimed to have softened up when he returned to the forum in 2021, but he still has his fair share of angry right-wing moments).
    What was Longbowman like at the beginning? You both joined the forum around the same time. I know he originally only identified as 3/8ths Jewish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkaner View Post
    What was Longbowman like at the beginning? You both joined the forum around the same time. I know he originally only identified as 3/8th Jewish.
    More right-wing and British nationalist.

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    Teutone has not become more left-wing, you might get that impression because he converted to Islam.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas View Post
    Teutone has not become more left-wing, you might get that impression because he converted to Islam.
    No it is not that. Rather:

    (1) His attitudes towards race softened considerably - even more dramatically than the aforementioned Juan Lacas. (He even told me that he prefers Turkish to Ukrainian immigrants in Germany, which would have been utterly unthinkable just two or three years ago).
    (2) Whereas he used to love capitalism and the free-market, he nowadays denounces them.
    (3) He became much more critical of US imperialism in particular, and Western imperialism more generally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    No it is not that. Rather:

    (1) His attitudes towards race softened considerably - even more dramatically than the aforementioned Juan Lacas. (He even told me that he prefers Turkish to Ukrainian immigrants in Germany, which would have been utterly unthinkable just two or three years ago).
    (2) Whereas he used to love capitalism and the free-market, he nowadays denounces them.
    (3) He became much more critical of US imperialism in particular, and Western imperialism more generally.
    Your second and third point are common among right-wingers as well, so it is somewhat arbitrary for you to think that they are left-wing ideals when in reality they are also Third Position flags.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas View Post
    Your second and third point are common among right-wingers as well, so it is somewhat arbitrary for you to think that they are left-wing propositions when in reality they are also Third Position flags.
    It is one thing to believe in corporatist as opposed to free-market policies, but quite another to outright denounce capitalism as such. Also, right-wingers often call critics of American (or more broadly Western) misdeeds as "snowflakes", "victim complexed" and even "anti-White".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Also, right-wingers often call critics of American (or more broadly Western) misdeeds as "snowflakes", "victim complexed" and even "anti-White".
    This varies tremendously from one political circle, country or region to another. Some conservative circles are pro-Russia, others are strongly pro-Ukraine, for example. The majority of right-wingers in Europe do no see America favorably as you are implying, if anything it is usually the opposite, but you might have a different idea because you are immersed in the Anglophone world which has a more positive view regarding the U.S.
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