Which forum members have become more left-leaning (or at least politically centrist) over time?

[bvnny]

I've become more of a "centrist" over time, since I consider myself an adept of social liberalism regarding political praxis.

[Tooting Carmen]

This varies tremendously from one political circle, country or region to another. Some conservative circles are pro-Russia, others are strongly pro-Ukraine, for example. The majority of right-wingers in Europe do no see America favorably as you are implying, if anything it is usually the opposite, but you might have a different idea because you are immersed in the Anglophone world which has a more positive view regarding the U.S.

Well in the UK and the US, among the Right there have always been so-called "Little Englanders" and "America Firsters" who advocate minimal if any interference in other countries, but I'd say most of the time they have been outnumbered by those of a more imperialistic and jingoistic bent. (Their respective Empires have had to count on at least some support at home, after all).

[B01AB20]

It's abnormal for a normal person to fulfill all the requirements and postulates of any ideology in every matter. Not even CV can do that.

Besides as a human being I am emotional, some times more emotional than logical, and facing some disturbing news, I leave aside the stability that characterizes me and I say what I feel, not what a certain ideology dictates what have to be said.

[Tooting Carmen]

It's abnormal for a normal person to fulfill all the requirements and postulates of any ideology in every matter. Not even CV can do that.

Besides as a human being I am emotional, some times more emotional than logical, and facing some disturbing news, I leave aside the stability that characterizes me and I say what I feel, not what a certain ideology dictates what have to be said.

Yes I understand that. But upon your return to the forum in 2021, you opened a thread saying how much you'd changed, when the point is you were never as right-wing/anti-immigration as the likes of Smeagol, SilverKnight, CV or alnorte in the first place anyway.

[B01AB20]

Yes I understand that. But upon your return to the forum in 2021, you opened a thread saying how much you'd changed, when the point is you were never as right-wing/anti-immigration as the likes of Smeagol, SilverKnight, CV or alnorte in the first place anyway.

That thread was about my inner feelings towards massive immigration to my country, not about my ideology which, as you say, never was or is extreme.

I said I was able to be more indifferent to the matter, because it was bittering me way too much.

[Tooting Carmen]

That thread was about my inner feelings towards massive immigration to my country, not about my ideology which, as you say, never was or is extreme.

I said I was able to be more indifferent to the matter, because it was bittering me way too much.

But you still have periodic anti-immigration/anti-'woke'/'Great Replacement' outbursts, even though your views are certainly milder than those four (and a good many other forum members too).

[axel.aleman]

Yes I understand that. But upon your return to the forum in 2021, you opened a thread saying how much you'd changed, when the point is you were never as right-wing/anti-immigration as the likes of Smeagol, SilverKnight, CV or alnorte in the first place anyway.

Yo creo que sí podría ser tan severo como ellos en cuanto a la inmigración de países vecinos a Panamá

[Tooting Carmen]

As for me, while I am probably among the most left-leaning 5% of forum members, nevertheless:

(1) I believe in social democracy, nowhere close to a Marxist-style command economy.
(2) I dislike attempts to deny the objective existence of biological sex and/or race.
(3) While I am more favourable towards immigration than most here, I still absolutely do not support completely open borders.

[B01AB20]

But you still have periodic anti-immigration/anti-'woke'/'Great Replacement' outbursts, even though your views are certainly milder than those four (and a good many other forum members too).

In my opinion 'woke' is extremist and a danger to democracy, and the 'Great Replacement' is not a conspiracy theory, it's real, it's happening before my own eyes and even the official numbers of spanish institutions say so.

Out of 48.000.000 of inhabitants in Spain not even 31.000.000 are real spaniards, and only 25 years ago more or less everybody was native in Spain.

One has to be idiot or very leftist to deny reality.

[Tooting Carmen]

Yo creo que sí podría ser tan severo como ellos en cuanto a la inmigración de países vecinos a Panamá

Even Costa Rica? And that's the point - B01AB20 has always said that Latin Americans are easier to integrate into Spanish society than most other immigrants (at least among those from the Global South - there are lots of European immigrants in Spain too), for pretty obvious reasons. In contrast, CV and Smeagol hate Latin American immigration just as much (maybe more so in the latter's case especially) as other non-white immigration, while even alnorte and SK are best described as ambivalent about other Latinos.