Which forum members have become more left-leaning (or at least politically centrist) over time?

[Tooting Carmen]

It's not that simple. 'Society' has made having a family in a luxury item, 'society' compels many women to choose between having children or a professional career... and all that could be addressed with political will.

Very true, but there is at least an element of personal choice and agency in this too. For good and for ill, most developed countries have become far more individualistic and anti-family over the years.

Sometimes I think you like to argue just for the sake of it.

I admit to sometimes deliberately playing Devil's advocate, but this is mostly a debate as to whether you believe in jus sanguinis or jus solis more.

[B01AB20]

I admit to sometimes deliberately playing Devil's advocate, but this is mostly a debate as to whether you believe in jus sanguinis or jus solis more.

Lol, seriously you have to ask me that?.

Play the honest advocate for once and you know that you know my answer already.

[Tooting Carmen]

Lol, seriously you have to ask me that?.

Play the honest advocate for once and you know that you know my answer already.

Alright, but if e.g. alnorte were to move to Spain again (and keeping in mind he is part-Spaniard himself) and had a child with a Spanish woman de pura cepa, would said child be extranjero or espanol to you?

[Incal]

It's not that simple. 'Society' has made having a family in a luxury item, 'society' compels many women to choose between having children or a professional career... and all that could be addressed with political will.

I don't really have a problem with having less kids or none. The problem is when humanoids like morroccans or pakis have like 6-7 kids each.

Sometimes I think you like to argue just for the sake of it.

He does. Y nunca va a admitir cuando la ha cagao o está repondiendo inepcias: te va a contestar con algo que no tiene nada que ver con lo que se está hablando tipo:

COFRADE: Los negros tienen el índice criminal más alto en los estados unidos.

PROGRE: Pero cuando no había afro americanos en USA el crimen era 0

[Tooting Carmen]

I don't really have a problem with having less kids or none. The problem is when humanoids like morroccans or pakis have like 6-7 kids each.

Just for the record: most countries apart from Afghanistan and parts of Sub-Saharan Africa are seeing plummeting birth rates, including Morocco and Pakistan.

He does. Y nunca va a admitir cuando la ha cagao o está repondiendo inepcias: te va a contestar con algo que no tiene nada que ver con lo que se está hablando tipo:

COFRADE: Los negros tienen el índice criminal más alto en los estados unidos.

PROGRE: Pero cuando no había afro americanos en USA el crimen era 0

No one but the most deluded denies the disparities in crime rates between races in the USA. The real debate is to WHY this is the case. And the strawman 'progre' may well say that Black people have suffered, and to an extent still suffer, higher levels of poverty and discrimination than most. (To explain is NOT to excuse). And the debate between jus solis and jus sanguinis is a perfectly legitimate one. (Who is more "Peruvian" to you: Keika Fujimori, Pedro Kuczynski or Alex Rivera?)

[B01AB20]

Alright, but if e.g. alnorte were to move to Spain again (and keeping in mind he is part-Spaniard himself) and had a child with a Spanish woman de pura cepa, would said child be extranjero or espanol to you?

Español obviously.
Even if you were to move to Spain and had a child with a Spanish woman de pura cepa I would consider him as español.

I'm not such a intransigent... but I'm 100% pure blood (AFAIK), and it would be better if most of population, not necessarily everybody, was also 100% pure blood.

[Incal]

Just for the record: most countries apart from Afghanistan and parts of Sub-Saharan Africa are seeing plummeting birth rates, including Morocco and Pakistan.



No one but the most deluded denies the disparities in crime rates between races in the USA. The real debate is to WHY this is the case. And the strawman 'progre' may well say that Black people have suffered, and to an extent still suffer, higher levels of poverty and discrimination than most. (To explain is NOT to excuse). And the debate between jus solis and jus sanguinis is a perfectly legitimate one. (Who is more "Peruvian" to you: Keika Fujimori, Pedro Kuczynski or Alex Rivera?)

That's just an issue in the anglosphere and Europe, here they all are peruvian.

[Tooting Carmen]

Español obviously.
Even if you were to move to Spain and had a child with a Spanish woman de pura cepa I would consider him as español.

I'm not such a intransigent... but I'm 100% pure blood (AFAIK), and it would be better if most of population, not necessarily everybody, was also 100% pure blood.

OK, but I bet quite a few of those 17 million or so 'foreigners' are of a similar background and situation to that hypothesis.

[Tooting Carmen]

That's just an issue in the anglosphere and Europe, here they all are peruvian.

Well you said it, not me. And by that answer, I take it you consider both jus solis and jus sanguinis to be of equal value then?

[Incal]

Well you said it, not me. And by that answer, I take it you consider both jus solis and jus sanguinis to be of equal value then?

Not really. In the new world no problem but in Europe IVS SANGVINIS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IVS SOLIS