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    Why Mongols couldn't do the same in Russia? Or Ottomans in Balkans? Discuss please.

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    Moors brought their guitar talent to Spaniards.

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    The Arabs/Moors were never in Spain nor have they influenced Spain, in Spain flows the Spanish and everything in Spain belongs to the Spanish and has a Spanish character. Learn about time and space.

    Do not forget that the Spaniards of the time made La Reconquista and any attempt at admission and or reconciliation or acceptance of that past in addition to a challenge is an offense.

    Do you know of any territory in Europe that has been at war for 8 centuries?
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    E-V22 - E-BY7449 - E-BY7566 - E-FT155550
    According to oral family tradition E-FT155550 comes from a deserter of Napoleon's troops (1808-1813) who stayed in Spain and changed his surname.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallop View Post
    The Arabs/Moors were never in Spain nor have they influenced Spain, in Spain flows the Spanish and everything in Spain belongs to the Spanish and has a Spanish character. Learn about time and space.

    Do not forget that the Spaniards of the time made La Reconquista and any attempt at admission and or reconciliation or acceptance of that past in addition to a challenge is an offense.

    Do you know of any territory in Europe that has been at war for 8 centuries?


    Are you seriously claiming the Moors were never in Spain? Or is this some sort of poetic jumble that you have to be mentally ill to decipher in which it's acknowledged but at the same denied?

    While Moorish cultural influence tends to be exaggerated are you claiming North Africans didn't leave a genetic influence as they expanded into Spain under Arab leadership?

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    Spaniards dont speak Arabic, dont have Arab surnames and dont have the Arabic religion.
    And the most important thing, dont look like Arabs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pascoal View Post
    Moors brought their guitar talent to Spaniards.
    which guitar??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    Are you seriously claiming the Moors were never in Spain? Or is this some sort of poetic jumble that you have to be mentally ill to decipher in which it's acknowledged but at the same denied?

    While Moorish cultural influence tends to be exaggerated are you claiming North Africans didn't leave a genetic influence as they expanded into Spain under Arab leadership?
    Very residual, only 4% and most from neolithic migration
    Not from Al Andalus
    A favor de la Unión del Caribe Hispano: Cuba, República Dominicana, Puerto Rico y Panamá

    Mi mapa de Ancestros hace 4500 años atras


    Como buen panameño tengo: genetica española, aborigen guanche, judia sefardita, amerindia y negra lo unico exotico
    es el asiatico oriental debido a un bisabuelo chino

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    Muslims destroy everything they touch so I really doubt they had any positive impact in Spain (or anywhere else).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallop View Post
    The Arabs/Moors were never in Spain nor have they influenced Spain, in Spain flows the Spanish and everything in Spain belongs to the Spanish and has a Spanish character. Learn about time and space.

    Do not forget that the Spaniards of the time made La Reconquista and any attempt at admission and or reconciliation or acceptance of that past in addition to a challenge is an offense.

    Do you know of any territory in Europe that has been at war for 8 centuries?
    How can you conquer something back from some people you claims never existed in your country? It's like saying "Celts never exister, they disappeared". How can they disappear if they never existed?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconquista
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    Spaniards dont speak Arabic, dont have Arab surnames and dont have the Arabic religion.
    And the most important thing, dont look like Arabs.


    which guitar??
    I think he mentions certain technique or flamenco which might have Gypsy or Arab/Jewish roots...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    Are you seriously claiming the Moors were never in Spain? Or is this some sort of poetic jumble that you have to be mentally ill to decipher in which it's acknowledged but at the same denied?

    While Moorish cultural influence tends to be exaggerated are you claiming North Africans didn't leave a genetic influence as they expanded into Spain under Arab leadership?

    The Moors have never been in Spain. Time and space cannot be altered at whim.


    We certainly did not notice any footprints of any kind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Incal View Post
    Muslims destroy everything they touch so I really doubt they had any positive impact in Spain (or anywhere else).
    It's not that simple. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age

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