Classify 4 women from Tajikistan

[Negah]

Again what do we mean by tajiks? Where are these tajiks from? Are we talking about the recent migrant ones? Because I am certain , majority of the people who fled the country , especially on that infamous plane picture were 90% hazaras .

Being Tajik in Afghanistan is almost as easy as going to the barbers . All you need to do is speak Farsi and voila you are "Tajik" , even though your facial features I.e blatant Turkic admixture is evident. No one can question your ethnicity because it's a taboo . It's a joke.

Based on my understanding, the Hazara community in the US is relatively small compared to the overall Afghan population. I understand that you are currently in England, but have you ever visited the US?

Interestingly enough, the region where I am located is actually home to the second-largest Afghan community in the US, trailing only behind California. Additionally, I have noticed that many Afghans in my area tend to pass through West Asia rather than Central Asia.

[Human10101]

You make excellent points . But to cut the conversation short , heratis speak a western Persian dialect and panjshiris speak a eastern dialect of Persian. They share linguistic ties however the point I was making would refer to give reality that panjshiris share more ties , in almost every aspect with their neighbouring populations like the pashtuns or pashayis , or nuristanis than heratis , who , in a simple sense, are both Tajik.

Most tajiks barely refer to themselves as such anyways. They rather refer to themselves as a place of origin, like herati, Panjshiri, kabul , Mazari etc .

Afghans in North America, the first waves of migrants , not the ones who have come recently , are almost all populations from Afghanistan's urban cities . You will rarely see any pamiris living in north America .

I agree. When it comes to ethnicity, people often try and create simple categories with clear boundaries when in reality this is not the case at all. In reality the lines are blurred and things are not as black and white.

[Flamingo]

Not every non European with an exotic touch looks like a gypsy. They look either Uzbek or Tajik.

[Flamingo]

What's your problem? They look like Gypsies. Post Europeans on this European forum and I'll classify them as such.

Not every non European with an exotic touch looks like a gypsy. They look either Uzbek or Tajik.

[Avicenna]

Not every non European with an exotic touch looks like a gypsy. They look either Uzbek or Tajik.

Referring back to OP, it's quite obvious and clear that tajikistani "tajiks" are heavily admixed with Uzbeks. Quite ironic since the term tajik literally means "non Turk". They are turkic-iranic admixed. Tajiks from the badakshan regions and Pamir plains as well as yaghnobis in northern tajikistan are much less admixed.

[Oliver109]

Referring back to OP, it's quite obvious and clear that tajikistani "tajiks" are heavily admixed with Uzbeks. Quite ironic since the term tajik literally means "non Turk". They are turkic-iranic admixed. Tajiks from the badakshan regions and Pamir plains as well as yaghnobis in northern tajikistan are much less admixed.

Would you say people like those in the pic above pass in the Pamirs?

[thisismyaccount]

Referring back to OP, it's quite obvious and clear that tajikistani "tajiks" are heavily admixed with Uzbeks. Quite ironic since the term tajik literally means "non Turk". They are turkic-iranic admixed. Tajiks from the badakshan regions and Pamir plains as well as yaghnobis in northern tajikistan are much less admixed.

Makes sense. Even several badakhshis themselves didn't even identify as "tajiks" until like 19th century. Vanj is a good example:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanji_language

These people were also Ismailis and lived like pre-muslim nuristanis, so obviously they were very tribal

[Avicenna]

Would you say people like those in the pic above pass in the Pamirs?

The second from left doesn't , the rest do imo but not typical .

[Flamingo]

Referring back to OP, it's quite obvious and clear that tajikistani "tajiks" are heavily admixed with Uzbeks. Quite ironic since the term tajik literally means "non Turk". They are turkic-iranic admixed. Tajiks from the badakshan regions and Pamir plains as well as yaghnobis in northern tajikistan are much less admixed.

Well, from Wikipedia:

The most plausible and generally accepted origin of the word is Middle Persian tāzīk 'Arab' (cf. New Persian tāzi), or an Iranian (Sogdian or Parthian) cognate word. The Muslim armies that invaded Transoxiana early in the eighth century, conquering the Sogdian principalities and clashing with the Qarluq Turks (see Bregel, Atlas, Maps 8–10) consisted not only of Arabs, but also of Persian converts from Fārs and the central Zagros region (Bartol'd [Barthold], "Tadžiki," pp. 455–57). Hence the Turks of Central Asia adopted a variant of the Iranian word, täžik, to designate their Muslim adversaries in general.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tajiks

[renisenb]

I think it's easier to tell the difference between Tajik men and gypsy men without all the eyeliner coming in the way.