K12 10 kybp WHG-EHG G25 calculator scaled

[Ritz06]

Target:
Distance: 4.6443% / 0.04644320
43.6 ENF
26.2 EHG
26.0 CHG
2.2 EA
2.0 MAG

[rothaer]

Does IllustrativeDNA have the real coordinates or also just synthesised ones?

They actually have real. They are the only ones that Davidski shared his secret G25 calculator with (or he calculates for them).

[rothaer]

I give it Aila willingly, but have you thought about SHG, maybe it isn't just something between WHG and EHG. Earliest dwellers came to the seaside soon after the ice shield retreated.

I think that the immigration of man to Scandinavia (Scandinavian peninsula) is found out with confidence. "Scenario a + b" was determined (see pic). WHG and EHG came and SHG is a mixture of those. There was no other source for humans at that time and that region.

[rothaer]

Does IllustrativeDNA have the real coordinates or also just synthesised ones?

Lemminkäinen wrote something that made me hestitate about what I said (IllustrativeDNA giving real G25 coords). I still think it's correct what I said but please note a little reservation till I in this thread will confirm it or not. Sorry for the confusion.

EDIT: I found folks at Anthrogenica that assured that their G25 coords from IllustrativeDNA are identical with those that they got from Davidski

https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....l=1#post906484
https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....l=1#post906889

and moreover, Davidski himself stated in his own blog to cooperate with IllustrativeDNA and told those coords are "legit".



https://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2019/...obal25_12.html

[rothaer]

Target:
Distance: 4.6443% / 0.04644320
43.6 ENF
26.2 EHG
26.0 CHG
2.2 EA
2.0 MAG

Scoring MAG (Magdalénien) is very strange. It's the Western European population prior to the expansion of WHG and usually just some modern Southern French do score very small proportions of that. It became genetically exterminated in the other parts of Europe. Could you remove MAG and re-run? I'm curious for what it may be substituted with.

[Aila]

Lemminkäinen wrote something that made me hestitating about what I said (IllustrativeDNA giving real G25 coords). I still think it's correct what I said but please note a little reservation till I in this thread will confirm it or not. Sorry for the confusion.

EDIT: I found someone at Anthrogenica that assured that his G25 coords from IllustrativeDNA are identical with those that he got from Davidski and moreover, Davidski himself stated in his own blog to cooperate with IllustrativeDNA and told those coords are "legit".


https://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2019/...obal25_12.html

I did my research prior to getting my cords from the illustrativedna, but appreciating your conscientiousness here.

[Lemminkäinen]

Lemminkäinen wrote something that made me hestitate about what I said (IllustrativeDNA giving real G25 coords). I still think it's correct what I said but please note a little reservation till I in this thread will confirm it or not. Sorry for the confusion.

EDIT: I found folks at Anthrogenica that assured that their G25 coords from IllustrativeDNA are identical with those that they got from Davidski

https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....l=1#post906484
https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....l=1#post906889

and moreover, Davidski himself stated in his own blog to cooperate with IllustrativeDNA and told those coords are "legit".



https://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2019/...obal25_12.html

I used same raw data, Sequencing.com 20M cropped to the 1M corresponding the data used in studies, but would it be possible that Davidski and IllustrativeDNA use different methods, although have similar background patterns? Also, in detailed tests populations are often generically quite close each other and same results can be achieved combining different groups.

Here is another example https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post7724517

But this is already more "stunning" https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post7723267. Closely relative populations gives a lot possible combinations. So if you have created a test using hundreds closely relative pops you can take the result with a pinch of salt. Know your data!

[Ritz06]

Scoring MAG (Magdalénien) is very strange. It's the Western European population prior to the expansion of WHG and usually just some modern Southern French do score very small proportions of that. It became genetically exterminated in the other parts of Europe. Could you remove MAG and re-run? I'm curious for what it may be substituted with.

Target:
Distance: 4.6487% / 0.04648699
43.8 ENF
26.4 EHG
26.0 CHG
2.0 EA
1.0 WHG
0.6 S_Asian_HG
0.2 Natufian

[Katarzyna]

Update with real coords

Target: Katarzyna(real)
Distance: 7.0097% / 0.07009733
41.8 ENF
41.4 EHG
8.4 CHG
8.4 WHG

[Rafael Passoni]

Target: me_scaled
Distance: 3.8528% / 0.03852762
67.8 ENF:Anatolia_Barcin_N
16.4 EHG:RUS_Karelia_HG
12.2 CHG:GEO_CHG
3.6 WHG:LUX_Loschbour