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    Quote Originally Posted by ugochaves View Post
    You are not a European, you are a Central Asian.
    That would be central Eurasian.

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    Middle East is not traditionally Asian like China or Japan. Asian part of Turkey is more similar to Morocco than to Korea or Vietnam.

    For this reason North Africa and the Middle East are traditionally grouped as MENA region.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ugochaves View Post
    Türkiye is Asia. Europe begins with the Volga and ends with Portugal.
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    Finland is Europe, more than Ukraine.
    Quote Originally Posted by ecptr View Post
    Greeks and Turks look the same.

    If Greece is European then Turkey is also European.
    Europe is more than geography, it's culture. If Russia would be ancient Novgorod when Europe would start with Novgorod.

    Phenotypes mean nothing here.

    Finland is more European than Ukraine of course because of Sweden and other European values. Ukraine is surprisingly European tho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Annihilus View Post
    That would be central Eurasian.
    Maybe. eurasia is a word that no one likes

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    I like the phrase, "Turks drink like Europeans and drive like Asians"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Methuselah View Post
    Europe is more than geography, it's culture. If Russia would be ancient Novgorod when Europe would start with Novgorod.

    Phenotypes mean nothing here.

    Finland is more European than Ukraine of course because of Sweden and other European values. Ukraine is surprisingly European tho.
    I agree. Finland today is one of the most European countries and Finns are Europeans, and exemplary real Europeans.

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    There is only one reason I would not go to Turkey ever: Man... as I am gettin older... I HATE SUMMERS haha and hot weather, and in Turkey is practically always hot.

    Here in Croatia we have really cold winters and hot summers, but I prefer winters and autumn while Im gettin older...

    When I was young I couldnt get enough of summer... but now... NO THANKS

    Summer is coming here in Croatia and it's like HELL IS COMING for me.

    Now I hate that hot weather, so many tourists around, traffic jams because of them, omg...

    I am dreaming September already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by InmostLight View Post
    I like the phrase, "Turks drink like Europeans and drive like Asians"
    There are 2 phrases in my country connected with Turks.

    Smokes like Turk, if the person is heavy smoker.

    Kud svi Turci tu i mali Mujo- Little Mujo(short of Bosnian Muhamed) goes whereever Turks go, term meaning that somebody is naive or pliable, goes with the mass, people that can be influenced by the majority

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobocopReturns View Post
    This question should be directed toward Turks themselves, and how they or some of them feel about it?

    I think millions of them looks like totally European, but then again millions of them do not.
    Asking Turks about being European means nothing. I heard some rural Spaniards and Greeks don't feel European because they don't live in cities and they are still Europeans. Saying "i'm European" means absolutely nothing.
    Quote Originally Posted by Duke View Post
    Turkie is part balkan, however one should question Europeaness of Balkan
    A good point. Especially when music sounds Middle Eastern influenced I heard it's because Greeks were part of Ottoman Empire. My own theory is that Greek music always had Middle Eastern elements. I might be wrong. But yeah, Balkan is Europe if it has European values and democracy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    Türkiye is Asia. Europe begins with Portugal and ends with the Volga.
    Russia is not Europe anymore. It was maybe at the times of Novgorod or Peter the Great.
    Quote Originally Posted by ugochaves View Post
    I agree. Finland today is one of the most European countries and Finns are Europeans, and exemplary real Europeans.
    Finland is absolutely not one of the most European countries but one of the least European but still European in it's own unique non Scandinavian Nordic way Finns are European tho, despite their North Asian component which pushes them away from European genetic cluster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobocopReturns View Post
    There is only one reason I would not go to Turkey ever: Man... as I am gettin older... I HATE SUMMERS haha and hot weather, and in Turkey is practically always hot.

    Here in Croatia we have really cold winters and hot summers, but I prefer winters and autumn while Im gettin older...

    When I was young I couldnt get enough of summer... but now... NO THANKS

    Summer is coming here in Croatia and it's like HELL IS COMING for me.

    Now I hate that hot weather, so many tourists around, traffic jams because of them, omg...

    I am dreaming September already.
    I like Turkey, I was there once, relaxing by the sea. But there is still something... Turks bow down to the Germans and ignore the Russians..It's not very nice. Although there was a very long queue of Germans at passport control, but the Turk called us and let me and my child go ahead of the same Germans. Therefore, the conclusion is that all people are different...There is a French Russophobe here, but I know that many French people treat Russians well and Croats the same way.

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