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    Quote Originally Posted by Xz0_ View Post
    Just admit it. You goatfuckers brought nothing good here.
    Just like your genetics J and E, go and migrate back to your origins Shqiptar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Far_away View Post
    Wow you have no shame. You talk about Ottomans while you gived your ass to them. You all became bunch of muslims because of them and you are the ones who got LAST one independent from them in 1912. You also did not did any fighting, we are the ones who pushed them from Kosovo and Raban (Albania).
    Russia wanted to create great Bulgaria on Serbian teritory so how did they saved us? You turkobanian.

    Yes we are warriors, we fighted whole NATO alone for 78 days. Albanians can't fight just us Serbs lol

    We are cowards but yet you have Bondsteel base and hide behind NATO because you are scared from us.
    There is no point discussing with an idiot, this person knows the game. I know their behaviour well.

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    No, these aren't unarmed Serb civilians but gangs led by Vucic . They also did the attack on the police. As for the north I don't know what they are doing with these Montenigrin settlers there , giving them more rights etc while the expelled Albanians in the north aren't allowed to even return back and the Albanians in Presheva have no rights and are being genocided, I'd personally kick them out of the country, we don't need them. As for occupiers, the only one who is the illegall occupier is certainly you , backed up by plenty of historical evidence. You're some clown tribe , arguably one of the most terroristic nations on the face of this earth that has stolen other peoples country and that needs to be neutralized . Only Israelis come close to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dušan View Post
    No, the West illegally and barbarically bombed my country, to steal part of our territory.

    I am not concerened because you are flooded by Muslims. Not at all.
    You will get Albanian immigrants gratis.
    No, this territory was never stolen from you, Chetnik. This was an Albanian territory that since the time of the
    Balkan Wars around 1912-13 you have been trying to take from Albanians.

    This is what a Serb Kosta Novakovic wrote in the early 20th century:

    The first victims of Serbian imperialism were Macedonia and Kosova. However, pan-Serbian imperialists, although forced by the more powerful imperialists to draw back from the Albanian coast, have kept the best and more fertile place of Albania: Kosova. We call Kosova the whole region inhabited by Albanians: Kosova, Metohia and the south part of the old Sanjak to Novi Pazar. More than 500,000 Albanians became slaves of a new ruler. Besides them, there are aditional 150-200 thousand Albanians in Macedonia. That is, there are altogether 650-700 thousand Albanians in Yugoslavia.
    Serbianisation of Kosova is the wildest example of a nation in the time of the Balkan War and the Second World War. The wildest terroristic and inquisition methods that were used in Kosova have not been seen either in Eastern Ukraine, or in Bjelorussia that are under Poland, or in Besarabia and Dobrudza that are under Rumania... Only Macedonia can be close to Kosova from this aspect.
    When Serbian imperialists invaded Kosova, they informed the world that they would return again their historical rights they had in 1389 (before the battle of Kosova). Basing themselves on these ‘historical rights', either Italy, or France, or Greece, or Turkey could rise and request to get half of Europe, as they had once these regions in their hands. Furthermore, France could request a part of Russia, as Napoleon went once to Moscow in 1812.
    On the basis of such ‘historical rights, Serbian imperialists want to take ‘pan-Serbian Kosova' without Serbs. Kosova is a merely Albanian region, and has only 10 to 15% Serbs settled there in older times.
    The first means that Serbian imperialists put in effect were medieval military means, or means of colonial invaders: extermination of population, military operations, disarmament of population, crushing the armed resistance, etc.
    In 1912 and 1913, 120,000 Albanians were exterminated - men, women, boys, old men and women, children - hundreds of villages were shot by heavy guns, a large number of them were burned down, more in Kosova and less in Macedonia.
    It is to observe that the representative of Russian imperialist tsarist politics, minister of Russia in Belgrade, Hartvig, blessed this policy of extermination that was carried out by Belgrade. The Russian Orthodox Tsar extended his assistance to the Orthodox Serbian brother, king Petar and his son Aleksandar, to exterminate a whole people and expand the Orthodox religion in the Balkans. At least 50,000 Albanians were forced to emigrate to Turkey and Albania and become immigrants, in order to save their lives.

    The extermination of the Albanians rarefied Albanian masses in Kosova to a certain degree, but it could not change the Albanian character that Kosova has had. The intention to exterminate the Albanians in Kosova was to settle Serbs instead of them, to colonise Kosova by Serbs, serbisianation of Kosova. Nevertheless, until the end of 1912, owing to great resistance on the part of the Albanians, colonisation made a relatively slow progress. Only a small number of Serbs were settled in the region of Kosova in the first stages.

    Your crimes in this territory are very well recorded. You have no claim to this territory. Let's not forget the expulsion of Albanians from the Toplica area which you also did prior to invading the territory of Kosovo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expuls...7%E2%80%931878

    You were a bunch of territoristic occupants, colonial invaders, that invaded a territory majority inhabited by an Albanian population and now pretends it's your country.

    Even more funny to talk about integral territory, as put by the Swiss historian:

    A government that acts against its own people like this forfeits the right to rule over them. The Albanians in Kosovo had already declared their independence in 1991. NATO’s international intervention in 1999 aimed to protect basic human rights and prevent mass expulsion.



    https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/politic...sible/48866242


    Also, Chetnik, let's not forget how you stole a part of Bosnia and created your illegal Republika Srpska and also took Vojvodina ,
    invaded Macedonia, you also tried to grab a part of Croatia. Where you pretty much genocided all the Muslims in Bosnia
    and took part of their country.



    I have studies these documents of Kosovo, and there always lived Albanians there, especially on the western kosovo and in the towns, you even see a continuity, imagine coming back after 500 years to claim a piece of land as yours because you held it 500 years ago for about 200 years, Cut down on the drugs, chetnik, and no, you are most definitely not the original inhabitant, one of the oldest populations in this territory were in fact the Dardani: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dardani . And in fact many believe they
    were the ancestors of Albanians.
    Last edited by DamCz; 02-13-2024 at 10:36 AM.

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    Also funny to talk about Albanian immigrant, Serbo-Chetnik, the only immigrant here is your Slavo ancestors that illegally crossed that border into the Balkans. You seem to have your facts mixed up. All the evidence supports your relatively late comers to these lands.

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    Learn your history, chetnik, only immigrant is you larping as original inhabitants:

    The first major Slav raids took place in the middle of Justinian's reign. In 547 and 548 they invaded the territory of modern Kosovo, and then (probably via Macedonia and the Via Egnatia across central Albania) got as far as Durres on the northern Albanian coast. [4] More substantial invasions took place in the 580s, bringing Slavs deep into Greece. Historians used to think that it was only these later invasions that involved any permanent settlement; but there is evidence of Slav place-names in the Balkans - particularly along the river Morava - by the 550s, which suggests a more continuous process of infiltration. [5] One factor which may have turned the southward movement of Slavs from a trickle to a flood was the arrival, in the north-western part of the Balkans, of an especially warlike Turkic tribe, the Avars, who subjugated or coopted some Slavic tribes but drove many others away. By the early seventh century the Avar armies were raiding as far as the walls of Constantinople, and threatening the very existence of the Byzantine Empire.



    By the mid-seventh century, Serbs (or Serb-led Slavs) were penetrating from the coastal lands of Montenegro into northern Albania. Major ports and towns such as Durres and Shkodra held out against them, but much of the countryside was Slavicized, and some Slav settlers moved up the valleys into the Malesi. By the ninth century, Slav-speaking people were an important element of the population in much of northern Albania, excluding the towns and the higher mountainous areas (especially the mountains in the eastern part of the Malesi, towards Kosovo). [8] Slav-speaking people lived in the lowlands of this area, gradually becoming a major component of the urban population too, until the end of the Middle Ages. [9]
    Finally, before turning to the most mysterious problem of all - the origin of the Albanians - it is worth looking once more at the pattern of settlement in the Kosovo area during the early Slav centuries. Kosovo did not fall within the Serb territory of Rascia, which was further to the north-west: the Serbian expansion into Kosovo began in earnest only in the late twelfth century. About the other early Slav settlers in this part of the Balkans we have much less information.

    Only in the ninth century do we see the expansion of a strong Slav (or quasi-Slav) power into this region. Under a series of ambitious rulers, the Bulgarians - a Slav population which absorbed, linguistically and culturally, its ruling elite of Turkic Bulgars - pushed westwards across modern Macedonia and eastern Serbia, until by the 850s they had taken over Kosovo and were pressing on the borders of Rascia. Soon afterwards they took the western Macedonian town of Ohrid; having recently converted to Christianity, the Bulgar rulers helped to set up a bishopric in Ohrid, which thus became an important centre of Slav culture for the whole region. And at the same time the Bulgarians were pushing on into southern and central Albania, which became thoroughly settled by Bulgarian Slavs during the course of the following century. [19]

    Kosovo was to remain under Bulgarian or Macedonian rulers until 1014-18, when the army of the Macedonian-based Tsar Samuel died, his empire broke up, and Byzantine power was fully re-established by a strong and decisive Emperor, Basil 'the Bulgar-killer'. For nearly two centuries after that, Kosovo would stay under Byzantine rule.
    You're as much the originals of this territory as a pair of nike shoes that you can buy in india for 5 dollars . That is what you are.


    Just some Slavic tribe that invaded every territory. You seem to be thick headed and historical facts do not seem to align into your skull jut like some of these Croats here that seem to love licking your ass when I pointed out your history is false and they were spreading your propaganda.

    https://macedonia.kroraina.com/en/nm/kosovo.html


    It's funny how this same person claims Albanians are Slavophobes while spreading Serbo-Chetnik propaganda like an aggressive nut job. There is not a single land in the Balkans that belongs to you Chetnik, you are some clowns that illegally crossed the border thanks to Roman occupation. That's about it.


    As for these Serbs in the north, no, they are not unarmed civilians.

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    You can even find placenames that attest to an Albanian population there since the medieval period at least

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gjinoc
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shpenadi
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ujmir
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gjonaj,_Prizren
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caparc
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voksh
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uq%C3%AB
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morin%C3%AB_(Gjakova)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dujak%C3%AB
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kojush%C3%AB
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zym
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbana%C5%A1ka_River
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazrek,_Prizren

    And plenty more. You even see a continuity. Fucking chicken Chetniks and their fake history . I have never in my
    life seen such fake history, where they supposedly claim Albos came into this territory in the18th century after
    their so called ''exodus'' (an invented fairytale of course) , fuck off Chetniks. That 1455 register mainly covers some
    eastern parts , doesn't cover western Kosovo. And it's also deemed as an unreliable one by various scholars.


    Even in Novo Brdo there was an old Albanian population, in eastern Kosovo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novo_Brdo


    Ragusan documents attest to the presence of a significant number of Albanians living in Novo Brdo throughout the 14th and early 15th centuries, including members of the Catholic Albanian clergy with names such as Gjergjash and Gjinko, Gjini, son of Gjergji, the presbyter (1382); the reverend Gjergj Gega, Nikollë Tanushi, Gjergj Andrea Pellini and Nikolla Progonovic. In the book of debtors belonging to Ragusan merchant Mihail Lukarevic, who resided in Novo Brdo during the 1430s, 150 Albanian household heads were mentioned as living in Novo Brdo with their families. They worked as miners, artisans and specialists in the mines of Novo Brdo. The anthroponomy of these figures is characteristically Albanian; distinctive Albanian names such as Gjon, Gjin, Tanush, Progon, Lek, Gjergj and Bibë are mentioned. Some families had a mixed Slav-Albanian anthroponomy - that is to say, a Slavic first name and an Albanian last name, or last names with Albanian patronyms and Slavic suffixes such as Gjonoviç, Gjinoviq, Progonoviq, Bushatoviq, Dodishiq, Kondiq, Lekiq and other such names. Many Albanian Catholic priests were registered as residing in Novo Brdo, as well as in towns like Janjevo, Trepça, Prizren and others.[4]

    You even see this in the 16th century register too. Prishtina must of had an old Albanian population too, and many
    of these areas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DamCz View Post
    You can even find placenames that attest to an Albanian population there since the medieval period at least

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gjinoc
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shpenadi
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ujmir
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gjonaj,_Prizren
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caparc
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voksh
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uq%C3%AB
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morin%C3%AB_(Gjakova)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dujak%C3%AB
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kojush%C3%AB
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zym
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbana%C5%A1ka_River
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazrek,_Prizren

    And plenty more. You even see a continuity. Fucking chicken Chetniks and their fake history . I have never in my
    life seen such fake history, where they supposedly claim Albos came into this territory in the18th century after
    their so called ''exodus'' (an invented fairytale of course) , fuck off Chetniks. That 1455 register mainly covers some
    eastern parts , doesn't cover western Kosovo. And it's also deemed as an unreliable one by various scholars.


    Even in Novo Brdo there was an old Albanian population, in eastern Kosovo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novo_Brdo





    You even see this in the 16th century register too. Prishtina must of had an old Albanian population too, and many
    of these areas.

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    Pretty funny how these chicken chetniks keep ignoring there were Albanians there as shown by documents
    and some of these registers, this is just counting people that had Albanian names, they keep using some dubiou register that mainly cover some timar holder villages in the east, not only this but we also got registers from the 16th century that shows an Albanian continuity, we also got information from travellers in the 17th that give us descriptions of who these territories were inhabited by and they go in favor of Albanians, I have opened a thread about this here, chicken chetniks:

    https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...a-in-the-1660s


    Let's start with Evliya Celebi that even included the Llap river in north-east Kosova as part of Albania:

    Through this part of the plain flows the Llap river, which has its source in Albania, (8) joins the ..... river at the foot of the aforementioned fortress of Mitrovica, and then joins the Morava river, which flows into the Danube.

    Also the Gora region spoke historically a Bulgarian dialect , they precede the Serb invasion into this territory. Prior to the 12th-14th century Serbs as a people are nowhere even mentioned in the territory of what is today Kosova or Dardania in general. There used to be no Serbs here.

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    Damche that looks like the longest monologue I've seen on forum, and literary nobody cares about your opinion

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