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I know one Rusyn in NS from Trebinje by his origins with surname which makes root of my surname and he's hardcore Russian monarchist and another Rusyn (not my friend just met him twice) with same surname from Vojvodina who's shitty autonomas and bitter towards Russia, they don't know each other, same surnames Kholod (means freeze) and polar attitude
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Except that, Serbs from enclaves also suffer from poverty. There are many Serbian families in enclaves as family Stojanović from eastern Kosovo on the video down. Humanitarian organization 'Srbi za Srbe' ('Serbs for Serbs') built them a new house, they lived in terrible conditions. Regardless their life is very hard in every sense, Serbs from enclaves have significant higher birth rate than other Serbs who live normally.
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Velika Hoča in Metohija is missing on that map.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velika_Ho%C4%8Da
I visited this enclave few years ago when I was in pilgrimage of medieval monasteries in Kosovo&Metohija.
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1. If I'm not mistaken a lot of Kosovo Serbs went to Vojvodina at abt. 1690 and sucessfully gained new land there for the Serb nation. Do you agree on that assessment?
2. IMO it would be contradictory to cherrypick different views in Kosovo and in Vojvodina, although I understand that leaving open both views may be reasonable if both areas are in some way contested. If you could freely choose a particular view to be the relevant one (having lived or living now) and given that all other people involved would accept and enduringly stick to it, what would you choose?
It's hard to concentrate when the neckline figuratively reaches almost to the navel, lol.
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39.8 (Balto-)Slavic
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From a realistic perspective, Serbians are right, and from an idealistic perspective, Kosovars are right. So I'm not going to go to argument here, but while reading the posts I have realized TA is turned into a pro-Russian Stormfront.
That's madness.
qpAdm: Bulgarian_1.DG= 77 - Kimak.SG= 23, p= 0.36, se= 0.31.
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I dont see reason why should we choose one part of Serbia over some other part of Serbia.
Our constitution is clear - our land is indivisible, and lot of countries in world supports our territorial integrity - especialy important voices of Russia, China, India and Brazil.
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Serbian migration from 1690. was not only from Kosovo, but from some other regions as well. Migration was not only to present day Vojvodina, but to a wider Pannonian space. Because of that migration number of Serbs in Kosovo has declined, still they were more numerous than Albanians until 19th century. Reduction of Serbs in Kosovo in the precious 300 years is due to Albanian violence towards them which cause migrations (smaller than migration in 1690, but in long period).
In 20th century Albanians had huge demographic expansion in Kosovo, plus immigration from Albania during the WW2 and in 1950s. On the other hand Serbs continue to left Kosovo as in previous centuries (for the same reason i mentioned up), and they were decreasing (especially in %).
In 1931 - 331.000 Albanians (60%) --- 180.000 Serbs (32.6%)
In 1948 - 498.000 Albanians (68.5%) --- 172.00 Serbs (23.6%)
In 1953 - 524.000 Albanians (65%) --- 190.000 Serbs (23.5%)
In 1961 - 646.000 Albanians (67%) --- 227.000 Serbs (23.5%)
In 1971 - 916.000 Albanians (73.7%) --- 228.00 Serbs (18.4%)
In 1981 - 1.226.000 Albanians (77.4%) --- 209.00 Serbs (13.2%)
In 1991 - 1.596.000 Albanians (81.2%) --- 194.000 Serbs (9.9%)
Between 1931. and 1991. Albanians have grown from 331K to 1.6 million, their number increased 5 times for only 60 years! Such growth for such a short time probably never happened in some population in human history. Yugoslavian anti-Serbian communist regime sponsored the birth of Albanians. Yugo dictator Josip Broz Tito was personally godfather to every ninth born Albanian child.
Same what happened to Serbs in Kosovo with Albanians, will happen to Germans and other westerners with Afro-Asian migrants. The process is well underway.
Last edited by Varda; 05-31-2023 at 11:08 PM.
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