Why Russia couldn't become like Scandinavian social democracy/more European at the time of Gorba?

[Methuselah]

Who and what did not let Russia to become more democratic or let's just say fair? Problems of privatization?

Reforms needed and Gorba starts to work
From 1975 to 1985, corruption and data fiddling became common practice among bureaucracy to report satisfied targets and quotas thus entrenching the crisis. Starting in 1986, Mikhail Gorbachev attempted to address economic problems by moving towards a market-oriented socialist economy. Gorbachev's policies of Perestroika failed to rejuvenate the Soviet economy; instead, a process of political and economic disintegration culminated in the breakup of the Soviet Union in 1991.

Transition to market economy (1991–98)

Following the collapse of the Soviet Union, Russia underwent a radical transformation, moving from a centrally planned economy to a globally integrated market economy. Corrupt and haphazard privatization processes turned over major state-owned firms to politically connected "oligarchs", which has left equity ownership highly concentrated.

Yeltsin's program of radical, market-oriented reform came to be known as a "shock therapy". It was based on the policies associated with the Washington Consensus, recommendations of the IMF and a group of top American economists, including Larry Summers[56][57][58] who in 1994 urged for "the three '-ations'—privatization, stabilization, and liberalization" to be "completed as soon as possible."[59] With deep corruption afflicting the process, the result was disastrous, with real GDP falling by more than 40% by 1999, hyperinflation which wiped out personal savings, crime and destitution spreading rapidly.[60][61] The jump in prices from shock therapy wiped out the modest savings accumulated by Russians under socialism and resulted in a regressive redistribution of wealth in favour of elites who owned non-monetary assets.[62]



The majority of state enterprises were privatized amid great controversy and subsequently came to be owned by insiders[69] for far less than they were worth.[57] For example, the director of a factory during the Soviet regime would often become the owner of the same enterprise. Under the government's cover, outrageous financial manipulations were performed that enriched a narrow group of individuals at key positions of business and government.[70] Many of them promptly invested their newfound wealth abroad, producing an enormous capital flight.[71] This rapid privatization of public assets, and the widespread corruption associated with it, became widely known throughout Russia as "prikhvatizatisiya," or "grab-itization."[72]

More reading. https://www.thenation.com/article/wo...oys-do-russia/

Discuss please.

[Sebastianus Rex]

Gorba's plan was to collapse the USSR not to turn it into a scandinavian inspired social democracy.

[dviz]

"Shock therapy" was never implemented in Russia, nor could have been. For that to be possible massive foreign investment is a must.

From all Eastern European countries only the Czech Republic had a real shock therapy, and it was quite a success. But then again, massive German investment (as percentage of the economy) was made there.

30 years later, Russia still is a statist economy, with more than 50% in public ownership, with a corrupt vertical hierarchy of yes men leading directly to Putin. At this point, Russia is as difficult to reform politically as China.

[Rumata]

Who and what did not let Russia to become more democratic or let's just say fair? Problems of privatization?

Scandinavia obviously isn't fair. Nor I think that there's a working democracy anywhere.

A much better question would be why your so butt hurt as to post such garbage threads every other day.

[Rumata]

"Shock therapy" was never implemented in Russia, nor could have been. For that to be possible massive foreign investment is a must.

From all Eastern European countries only the Czech Republic had a real shock therapy, and it was quite a success. But then again, massive German investment (as percentage of the economy) was made there.

30 years later, Russia still is a statist economy, with more than 50% in public ownership, with a corrupt vertical hierarchy of yes men leading directly to Putin. At this point, Russia is as difficult to reform politically as China.

Actually that shit did happened to our country and damaged it seriously. Idk why you ignore that fact or why it doesn't correspond to your definition of "shock therapy"

Sorry, it's in Russian:
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%AD...E%D0%B4%D1%8B)

[Rumata]

Methuselah has no idea why Scandinavia was allowed a few decades of prosperity and freedoms. Nor he's aware of the real purpose of the Pizza man Gorby to rule and collapse USSR. He just found another subject to bla-bla about our country he's so butt hurt about. That's it. Another worthless thread.

[Finnish Swede]

Who and what did not let Russia to become more democratic or let's just say fair? Problems of privatization?
Discuss please.

All starts and ends to people => Ryssä on ryssä vaikka voissa paistaisi.

That is why.

[Rumata]

All starts and ends to people: Ryssä on ryssä vaikka voissa paistaisi.

That is why.

Fuck off to the finnish section, please.

[dviz]

Actually that shit did happened to our country and damaged it seriously. Idk why you ignore that fact or why it doesn't correspond to your definition of "shock therapy"

I'm aware of Gaidar's reforms, but most remained on paper.

Russia still is much more of a statist economy than all other Eastern European economies (that were not part of the USSR).

[Finnish Swede]

Fuck off to the finnish section, please.

I hope the consulate will soon be closed in Marienham. You played the ball into Finns' hands via your last actions

I wonder are Russians' skills in ''chess'' overestimated...