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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumata View Post
    Gorbach tried hard to damage our country. He even lowered his own status of the ruler of a great country bellow the level of an American pizza producer. All according too his duty of course.
    I, as a descendant of military personnel (most of the men on my father's side are/were officers) can tell you how the Gorbachev period influenced the army.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumata View Post
    You see a creature in your avatar and logically in your mirror too.

    I don't envy someone from a dullest part of Europe ever. Much rather it's pity. But in your case the pity has more to do with your mental abilities.
    You are a creature coming to another person's thread bashing it like some paranoid incel who lives here on TA. Apart from other members who believe in freedom of speech (this often includes not stinking on another man's backyard) you always come with critics, it all stems from retarded way of raising kids in your neighbour. Just let people start threads and have a conversation without constantly fighting, ok? And no, i didn't bash on Russia but simply asked if there was a way to make Russia more stable. Gorba simply speaking started deadly changes and USSR went down. Privatization and stuff like was not Groba's work so my question is really about making it in Yeltsin's era but we know what happened. Saying mistakes were not made but it all was robbery is just a start of the conversation. Now tell what should or could have been done if you want to add something.

    Every single person on this thread apart you agrees that Nordic countries are better and more stable than your country which is not even considered fully developed. And now, before you start peeing processed buratino limonade in your stinky pants, don't please think that i rank people based on language and ethnicity. I of course know that Russians can be very good people, normal people, but also very toxic people like you. You again started fighting and offending me in my own thread. You little buratino limonade пиздюк. All you can do is call other people Jews. But i already showed my DNA test results. The one who behaves like certain Jews and Gypsies here is you. Many Jews and even Gypsies are cool people tho. Try to be like more like them.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rumata View Post
    Gorbach tried hard to damage our country. He even lowered his own status of the ruler of a great country bellow the level of an American pizza producer. All according to his duty of course.



    I think now no reasonable being should made mistake on his account.
    Gorba at least tried something since USSR was lacking behind. Communist economy just does not work.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rumata View Post
    I really don't have time to explain why in different post socialistic countries situations are different.
    Anyway from all I know such "small countries" as Latvia now are about halfed demographically and made into desert industry wise.
    No one asked you to explain anything. You are making a clown of yourself trying to explain something to a grown up Finn.

    Post Soviet countries went through harsh but inevitable transition.
    Last edited by Methuselah; 06-03-2023 at 03:23 PM.

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    Some learning for Rumata

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    KirillMazur, meanwhile as early as in 1969 there were people like Vsevolod Kochetov who saw clearly by which methods our country was assaulted and what were the dangers. It all is described in his great novel What Do You Want Then?. Somehow it's very hard to find a Soviet book with this novel. Possibly the internal enemies managed to block its distribution then when this book was so much needed.
    I highly recommend this work.

    The Russian title is «Чего же ты хочешь?», Всеволод Кочетов.
    Do what you should.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumata View Post
    KirillMazur, meanwhile as early as in 1969 there were people like Vsevolod Kochetov who saw clearly by which methods our country was assaulted and what were the dangers. It all is described in his great novel What Do You Want Then?. Somehow it's very hard to find a Soviet book with this novel. Possibly the internal enemies managed to block its distribution then when this book was so much needed.
    I highly recommend this work.

    The Russian title is «Чего же ты хочешь?», Всеволод Кочетов.
    You can buy it from Latvia.

    https://kniga.lv/en/shop/chego-zhe-ty-hochesh/

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    I see the mammoth member got started and piled a ton of extra stupidities.

    Well.
    1. When I come to your thread it's not like I came to your house. Here we are equal.

    2. I do believe in freedom of speech that's why I spoke my mind concerning your idiotic writings. The reason my critic was short was exactly to save my time so that not "to live on the forum" .
    I didn't want any internet fight here, really. I do think this thread was started out of butt hurt for the following reasons:
    a) your all time posting history
    b) your latest started thread list which include these:
    - Why Russia couldn't become like Scandinavian social democracy/more European at the time of Gorba?
    - Why Orthodox countries seem to be least developed in Europe?
    - What do Eastern European countries produce? Mention fields and companies.

    Your interest in Russia is so consistent that it's amazing how you still seem not to understand many obvious things about Russia.

    3. You don't speak for "Every single person on this thread". It looks like you learned some arrogance from Swedes but you can't apply it as to the point.
    3.1 I didn't even talk about "stability and development" of your country. I said it was dull and certainly not worth my envy which is very different. The way you distorted it shows your dishonesty.

    4. OK, you're not a Jew. I don't object that anymore since you'd informed me last year or so. I didn't even check your DNA test.

    5. "Communist economy just does not work". It's bullshit or a lie. Enough to check how our economy worked in late stalinist period.

    6. And why wouldn't I explain something to a grown Finn? Do Neo-Finns like yourself have a superiority complex too now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Methuselah View Post
    You are a creature coming to another person's thread bashing it like some paranoid incel who lives here on TA. Apart from other members who believe in freedom of speech (this often includes not stinking on another man's backyard) you always come with critics, it all stems from retarded way of raising kids in your neighbour. Just let people start threads and have a conversation without constantly fighting, ok? And no, i didn't bash on Russia but simply asked if there was a way to make Russia more stable. Gorba simply speaking started deadly changes and USSR went down. Privatization and stuff like was not Groba's work so my question is really about making it in Yeltsin's era but we know what happened. Saying mistakes were not made but it all was robbery is just a start of the conversation. Now tell what should or could have been done if you want to add something.

    Every single person on this thread apart you agrees that Nordic countries are better and more stable than your country which is not even considered fully developed. And now, before you start peeing processed buratino limonade in your stinky pants, don't please think that i rank people based on language and ethnicity. I of course know that Russians can be very good people, normal people, but also very toxic people like you. You again started fighting and offending me in my own thread. You little buratino limonade пиздюк. All you can do is call other people Jews. But i already showed my DNA test results. The one who behaves like certain Jews and Gypsies here is you. Many Jews and even Gypsies are cool people tho. Try to be like more like them.

    Gorba at least tried something since USSR was lacking behind. Communist economy just does not work.


    No one asked you to explain anything. You are making a clown of yourself trying to explain something to a grown up Finn.

    Post Soviet countries went through harsh but inevitable transition.
    Do what you should.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemminkäinen View Post
    Thanks for linking and I'm glad they don't prohibit selling of this book there in Latvia.

    But this one was published this year and I meant specifically old Soviet editions. In RF copies of post-Soviet editions are sold too:
    https://www.labirint.ru/books/827311/
    Do what you should.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumata View Post
    I see the mammoth member got started and piled a ton of extra stupidities.
    I'm too Southern Russian with Balkan influence who in past would prefer to smoke a joint and in present will sip another glass of red dry wine instead of arguing with some boring as hell Finns

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    Quote Originally Posted by Methuselah View Post
    Some learning for Rumata
    This is not "learning" for anyone. Without watching: this video comes from a Navalny's friend Vladimir Milov and the first frame of this video has Anatoly Chubays who as said above didn't care if 30 millions of Russians didn't fit into "free market" (how he called their reforms).
    Do what you should.

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    As for the topic, in meaning of wealth and slight reforms Gorby f*ced up everything, we could change as China but Gorby just threw everything down the well. I'm Anticommunist, all my family members never been in Communist party, but it doesn't mean we needed all this shit which happened. 1993 coup attempt was not good, too, as it were Stalinist freaks so after all Yeltsin was best of worst, sad but truth.

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