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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    Makes sense. After all, American culture (even by Western standards) puts a great emphasis on self-reliance and individualism, which simultaneously makes them both more and less mature in different ways.
    Sorry, you are wrong, Americans are more intrinsically collectivist than the English since Americans are to the English what Austrians are to the Germans. One can be individualistic to the point of eccentricity, in England, while in America eccentric behavior will get you put into a mental institution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperLimey View Post
    Sorry, you are wrong, Americans are more intrinsically collectivist than the English since Americans are to the English what Austrians are to the Germans. One can be individualistic to the point of eccentricity in England, while in America eccentric behavior will get you put into a mental institution.
    On economic issues, Americans are certainly more individualistic/capitalist than the English. On social issues, I agree it is much more debatable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    On economic issues, Americans are certainly more individualistic/capitalist than the English. On social issues, I agree it is much more debatable.
    So German philosophers would refer to Americans as mentally inferior philistines. Americans measure how successful their nation is by how well the top 1% lives which makes zero sense unless you live in a third world country such as the ones in south America. Americans think they are smart when in reality they live in a third world country in terms of violence and poverty etc.. at least it seems that way to me but I haven't glanced at the statistics lately so my recollection is not in tip top shape right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperLimey View Post
    So German philosophers would refer to Americans as mentally inferior philistines. Americans measure how successful their nation is by how well the top 1% lives which makes zero sense unless you live in a third world country such as the ones in south America. Americans think they are smart when in reality they live in a third world country in terms of violence and poverty etc.. at least it seems that way to me but I haven't glanced at the statistics lately so my recollection is not in tip top shape right now.
    On social indicators like life expectancy and education it is still within the First World range, but at the lower end of the spectrum (even Portugal and Greece, by some distance the poorest countries in Western Europe, have higher life expectancies than the US). However, in terms of GNI per capita, the US is ranked 7th in the world and is by a very long stretch the most affluent very large nation (even Japan's GNI per capita is around $20,000 per annum lower).

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    LOL If you remove the stats of non-whites then the US whites have less crime and just as educated and wealthy as any European country. At the rate Europe is allowing the trash of Africa and the ME in you will soon find out.

    It blows my mind an Englishman thinks Americans are less civilized when they have the worst reputation in the world. I've never heard for example Spanish people complaining about the awful disgusting behavior of Americans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tooting Carmen View Post
    On social indicators like life expectancy and education it is still within the First World range, but at the lower end of the spectrum (even Portugal and Greece, by some distance the poorest countries in Western Europe, have higher life expectancies than the US). However, in terms of GNI per capita, the US is ranked 7th in the world and is by a very long stretch the most affluent very large nation (even Japan's GNI per capita is around $20,000 per annum lower).
    I don't know what kind of drugs you are on man (I sound Dutch here ) but the American philosopher Mortimer J. Adler said in the 1970s that Americans needed to learn how to read better to compete in the future but Americans read at the 8th grade level (that is why the author James Patterson is so popular there) so Americans literally can't compete internationally. The German philosopher Schopenhauer was the first to lay out the American style of government but Americans strayed from it and now live in Jock-Kraut Hamiltonian-Hegelian federalist state :

    I should prefer to take a higher point of view, and apply the term philistine to people who are always seriously occupied with realities which are no realities; but as such a definition would be a transcendental one, and therefore not generally intelligible, it would hardly be in place in the present treatise, which aims at being popular. The other definition can be more easily elucidated, indicating, as it does, satisfactorily enough, the essential nature of all those qualities which distinguish the philistine. He is defined to be a man without mental needs. From this is follows, firstly, in relation to himself, that he has no intellectual pleasures; for, as was remarked before, there are no real pleasures without real needs. The philistine’s life is animated by no desire to gain knowledge and insight for their own sake, or to experience that true aeesthetic pleasure which is so nearly akin to them. If pleasures of this kind are fashionable, and the philistine finds himself compelled to pay attention to them, he will force himself to do so, but he will take as little interest in them as possible. His only real pleasures are of a sensual kind, and he thinks that these indemnify him for the loss of the others. To him oysters and champagne are the height of existence; the aim of his life is to procure what will contribute to his bodily welfare, and he is indeed in a happy way if this causes him some trouble. If the luxuries of life are heaped upon him, he will inevitably be bored, and against boredom he has a great many fancied remedies, balls, theatres, parties, cards, gambling, horses, women, drinking, traveling and so on; all of which can not protect a man from being bored, for where there are no intellectual needs, no intellectual pleasures are possible. The peculiar characteristic of the philistine is a dull, dry kind of gravity, akin to that of animals. Nothing really pleases, or excites, or interests him, for sensual pleasure is quickly exhausted, and the society of philistines soon becomes burdensome, and one may even get tired of playing cards. True, the pleasures of vanity are left, pleasures which he enjoys in his own way, either by feeling himself superior in point of wealth, or rank, or influence and power to other people, who thereupon pay him honor; or, at any rate, by going about with those who have a superfluity of these blessings, sunning himself in the reflection of their splendor — what the English call a snob.

    From the essential nature of the philistine it follows, secondly, in regard to others, that, as he possesses no intellectual, but only physical need, he will seek the society of those who can satisfy the latter, but not the former. The last thing he will expect from his friends is the possession of any sort of intellectual capacity; nay, if he chances to meet with it, it will rouse his antipathy and even hatred; simply because in addition to an unpleasant sense of inferiority, he experiences, in his heart, a dull kind of envy, which has to be carefully concealed even from himself. Nevertheless, it sometimes grows into a secret feeling of rancor. But for all that, it will never occur to him to make his own ideas of worth or value conform to the standard of such qualities; he will continue to give the preference to rank and riches, power and influence, which in his eyes seem to be the only genuine advantages in the world; and his wish will be to excel in them himself. All this is the consequence of his being a man without intellectual needs. The great affliction of all philistines is that they have no interest in ideas, and that, to escape being bored, they are in constant need of realities. But realities are either unsatisfactory or dangerous; when they lose their interest, they become fatiguing. But the ideal world is illimitable and calm, something afar From the sphere of our sorrow. --Arthur Schopenhauer

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    Have you changed your mind about us since this post, Incal?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CordedWhelp View Post
    Have you changed your mind about us since this post, Incal?
    Not a single bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CordedWhelp View Post
    Have you changed your mind about us since this post, Incal?
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