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    Afghanistanis and Pakistanis have a small amount of Western European ancestry in their MyHeritage results, but when we look at their DNA results from platforms like k12b, global g25, Eurogenes 36, there isn't much similarity to Europeans. So where does this similarity come from? I haven't come across anything similar in any Turkic or Greek populations.
    note: A similar result is obtained for the Kurds as well. but European rates are very low. This does not happen even among peoples with a higher European heritage than the Kurds.

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    Its similiar as in gedmatch and g25.

    Myheritage has crappy references for afghans and certain pakistanis. Afghans and pakistanis often have like 20-30% pastoralist indo-european, comparable to south euros(who themselves are often 25-40% pastoralist). just rest of their ancestry is quite different from rest of the ancestry in example south euros.

    Kurds have better references in myheritage representing them, which is why they score like 80-90% west asian often.


    Myheritage is crap anyways

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    Quote Originally Posted by thisismyaccount View Post
    Its similiar as in gedmatch and g25.

    Myheritage has crappy references for afghans and certain pakistanis. Afghans and pakistanis often have like 20-30% pastoralist indo-european, comparable to south euros(who themselves are often 25-40% pastoralist). just rest of their ancestry is quite different from rest of the ancestry in example south euros.

    Kurds have better references in myheritage representing them, which is why they score like 80-90% west asian often.


    Myheritage is crap anyways
    Can you post some results/examples to show this (20-30% pastoralist indo-european) for both Afghans and Pakistanis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turbosat View Post
    Can you post some results/examples to show this (20-30% pastoralist indo-european) for both Afghans and Pakistanis.
    Too lazy to do it, but they get around that much typically, though some afghans can score up to 40-50%(northeast badakhshan)

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    Quote Originally Posted by thisismyaccount View Post
    Too lazy to do it, but they get around that much typically, though some afghans can score up to 40-50%(northeast badakhshan)
    Don't fall for this guy's trap, have you noticed he always gets agitated when steppe ancestry is spoken about Afghans and Pakistanis . Insecure little bitch he is

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    Quote Originally Posted by thisismyaccount View Post
    Too lazy to do it, but they get around that much typically, though some afghans can score up to 40-50%(northeast badakhshan)
    No good writing such things without proving it or at least showing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avicenna View Post
    Don't fall for this guy's trap, have you noticed he always gets agitated when steppe ancestry is spoken about Afghans and Pakistanis . Insecure little bitch he is
    Now Pakistanis and Afghans are the same all of a sudden. Then you prove they have this same steppe ancestry.

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    How far apart would the average Pakistani and the average Afghan plot?

    If the Pakistani average takes into account Punjabis, Pashtuns, Sindhis, Saraikis and so on. And the Afghan average includes Pashtuns, Tajiks, Hazaras, Uzbeks et cetera.
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    Quote Originally Posted by turbosat View Post
    Now Pakistanis and Afghans are the same all of a sudden. Then you prove they have this same steppe ancestry.
    You are drawing conclusions and creating red herrings out of my statements. Full of BS mate . I never claimed Afghans and Pakistanis are the same did I?

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    Quote Originally Posted by turbosat View Post
    No good writing such things without proving it or at least showing it.
    ok, if you want to see that.


    Here are khatris and sindhis, pretty average for Indic pakistanis overall:



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    Here are pashtuns, tarkalani is Pakistani but represent pashtuns of nangarhar, Kunar and Laghman quite well, since theyre from bajaur(right next to AFG):



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    Here are 2 afghan tajiks and 1 badakhshan average. I think the badakhshani mainly represent tajiks far up north, average northeast afghan tajik rather likely gets around 35% pastoralist and. little more IVC(shahr e sokteh):





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    In case youre confused, sintashta is pastoralist. Shahr e sokteh is IVC(not the actual IVC/harappan people)/south asian, the bustan and sappali + gonur are all BMAC(tajiks of course dont get more BMAC than steppe, we just dont have the right pre-aryan samples for certain afghans)


    As you see, they all get around 20-30% pastoralist admix



    The samples I used to model them all with, are these:





    IRN_DinkhaTepe_BIA_A,0.0897305,0.1408202,-0.065116,-0.0811807,-0.0262098,-0.0284002,0.0019975,-0.0070385,-0.0095443,0.0013062,0.005684,-0.0038968,0.0097622,0.0024313,-0.0033928,0.0090603,-0.003477,0.0019427,0.0041478,-0.0015215,0.0041387,0.0036272,-0.0062035,-0.0015665,0.0051492
    RUS_Sintashta_MLBA,0.125433,0.116075,0.0576869,0.0 787689,0.0113968,0.0284096,0.0056636,0.0042383,-0.0176231,-0.028034,-0.0025766,0.0013488,-0.0032061,-0.0215196,0.0225975,0.0126579,-0.004885,0.0004476,-0.0002933,-0.0006753,-0.0061142,0.0023618,0.0026497,0.007033,-0.0041074
    TKM_Gonur1_BA,0.0797711,0.0788728,-0.1109992,0.0083172,-0.0985823,0.0210331,0.0070112,-0.006269,-0.0638796,-0.0407905,-0.0022328,0.0026476,-0.0055005,-0.0064683,0.0183108,0.0248938,-0.0047916,0.0007389,0.0045462,-0.0232508,-0.0020797,-0.0143128,-0.0016537,-0.0157552,0.0111767
    IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2:I11456,0.042115,-0.044683,-0.181772,0.099484,-0.100942,0.048806,0.00376,0,0.004704,-0.003462,0,0.002098,0.000149,-0.001514,0.006786,0.017767,-0.002738,0.00076,0.002765,-0.016383,-0.003868,-0.016569,-0.001479,-0.012411,0.002874
    IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2:I11466,0.050082,-0.026404,-0.162916,0.08398,-0.109251,0.053547,0.010575,-0.005538,0.003272,0.018406,-0.005359,0.012289,-0.008028,-0.01101,0.009908,0.02559,0.008605,0.004434,0.00100 6,-0.018259,0.006613,-0.013107,0.004314,-0.001205,0.008502
    UZB_Sappali_Tepe_BA:I7414,0.071709,0.075149,-0.128975,0.012274,-0.093864,0.023427,0.00141,-0.002538,-0.051949,-0.032074,-0.000812,0.004196,-0.010555,-0.010046,0.020358,0.039512,0.005867,0.006334,0.002 388,-0.025512,0.006988,-0.020403,-0.003081,-0.02169,0.006826
    UZB_Bustan_BA:I5605,0.085367,0.075149,-0.111251,0.010013,-0.087401,0.024263,0.00047,-0.003923,-0.056244,-0.029522,0.004384,0.001499,0.008325,-0.010597,0.003936,0.020684,0.002738,0.010895,0.009 302,-0.011756,-0.005989,-0.015457,-0.008258,-0.017954,0.012574
    "Mongola",0.031112,-0.4234757,0.0311753,-0.055556,0.0135407,0.0023243,0.00799,0.007077,-0.005454,0.0049813,-0.0609497,-0.0038967,0.0081763,-0.005138,-0.0047047,-0.002431,-0.000913,0.001605,0.002472,0.000792,0.003286,-0.0030503,0.0032047,0.0015263,-0.0011973
    SRB_Iron_Gates_HG,0.1305661,0.1170479,0.1821736,0. 179266,0.1313397,0.0553463,0.0143661,0.0327084,0.0 650782,-0.010023,-0.0091618,-0.0172595,0.025608,-0.0001331,0.0333084,0.048361,0.0045466,0.0058194,-0.0069012,0.0482893,0.0749404,0.0111487,-0.0339606,-0.1222246,0.0112834
    IRN_Seh_Gabi_C,0.0799038,0.1186138,-0.1042362,-0.054264,-0.067151,-0.0124944,0.005499,-0.0086302,-0.0478176,-0.0168748,0.0024684,0.0005096,-0.001427,-0.0011558,0.0034204,0.0170244,-0.0028684,0.0046622,0.0082206,-0.014682,0.0070626,-0.005787,-0.0015282,-0.0162432,0.0072566
    IRN_Hajji_Firuz_C,0.0884975,0.1330342,-0.0779698,-0.0673455,-0.0431615,-0.0184765,0.0082252,-0.0081343,-0.0353828,-0.0029612,0.0050747,-0.002098,-0.0014865,0.0002062,-0.005293,0.0025522,-3.25e-05,0.0012668,0.0033938,-0.006597,0.005272,-0.0033388,-0.0077338,-0.0127128,-0.0001195
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