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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    [video=youtube_share;H4jOKPpWDr0]https://youtu.be/H4jOKPpWDr0[/video[

    He's referencing Peikoff (an Ayn Rand acolyte). I have issues with Peikoff but not on this subject. He hit the nail on the head.
    Typical America : post anti-intellectual video as a gospel true research method in "philosophy".

    Hitler's philosophy was that Jews were exploiting and degenerating society e.g. the globo-homo , negro-idolatry, and controlling the finance e,g. the federal reserve, wall-street, and the inflation of the US dollar as a tax on the poor etc..

    Being central European Germans are a somewhat less individualistic than northern Europeans and NorthWestern Euros so Nazism was Judaism for Germans (ethnocentrism and xenophobia) or Hitler turned the table on the Jews. Furthermore the German medieval age was closer to Scandinavia , genetically, than Germany during WWII (thanks to events like thirty years war) so he sought to increase the nordicness of the Germans through such programs as Lebensraum and the SS having strict racial standards for joining :

    Societies with large-scale organization and other advanced features, which require a modal I.Q. of at least 80 according to the above section, have been founded by peoples who had priorly been living in areas with moderate to cold climates, where they had to deal with harsh conditions. In such periods they withdrew to places that were still inhabitable, but nevertheless many were undoubtedly killed by food shortage or cold, and those surviving were a select few.

    Later, when the climate became better permanently (or when they migrated to more friendly areas) these were the people who became the founders of large civilizations. The raw ice-age intelligence was then apparently invested, crystallized, into culture. And again later, it appears the intelligence that had led to civilization was in some cases lost, possibly because the selective pressure that had produced it (cold conditions) had disappeared, possibly also by other dysgenic phenomena that inevitably occur in high civilization.

    The pattern seems to be that cold conditions produce peoples of high intelligence. This intelligence is initially of a raw and uncultured nature, visual-spatial rather than verbal. When conditions then improve, one uses this new intelligence to build civilizations. In that process, culture is produced, language refined, and verbal ability rises. For some time, overall intelligence may be rising as a result of increasing verbal ability. But then, through relaxed selection pressure and other dysgenic effects inherent to civilization, general intelligence starts going down, mainly on the visual-spatial aspects. Eventually, civilization may disappear again, or be taken over by another people still in the eugenic phase of this process.

    Characteristic for the eugenic phase of this rise to civilization are high spatial ability, lower verbal ability, and an uncultured, "barbaric" nature. For instance, the medieval Germanic peoples, having been pushed southward by severe climate cooling, appeared barbaric to the degenerating latter-day Romans; and several centuries later, the sophisticated Arabs, then at their cultural summit, were still appalled by the Germanics' bad table manners. The Germanics (or "Germans", as some say), however, rose to civilization during the Middle Ages and became the world's leading culture in the Renaissance. Currently, some east-Asian peoples are clearly in this rising phase; in the context of the present hypothesis, this is so because the ice age ended more recently there than in Europe, so that the peoples living there are less far in the development meant here, that is, have not reached the dysgenic phase yet, still possess high visual-spatial ability while being relatively lower (but rising, if the present hypothesis is correct) in verbal ability.

    Characteristic for the dysgenic phase are high verbal ability (which facilitates deceit and relativistic philosophizing), decreasing visual-spatial and (somewhat later) decreasing numerical ability and therewith decreasing general intelligence, and a highly cultured, sophisticated, permissive, decadent-degenerative nature on the whole. Western civilization, the product of the Germanic peoples, has likely entered this phase in the second half of the twentieth century. A pivotal point that precedes the steepest decline is probably the abolishment of death penalty and corporal punishment. The decline of visual-spatial ability is illustrated magnificently, though unintendedly, by the unmistakable deterioration of architecture and visual art in the Western world over the twentieth century and later.
    https://paulcooijmans.com/evolution/...evolution.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triskelon View Post
    Typical America : post anti-intellectual video as a gospel true research method in "philosophy".

    Hitler's philosophy was that Jews were exploiting and degenerating society e.g. the globo-homo , negro-idolatry, and controlling the finance e,g. the federal reserve, wall-street, and the inflation of the US dollar as a tax on the poor etc..

    Being central European Germans are a somewhat less individualistic than northern Europeans and NorthWestern Euros so Nazism was Judaism for Germans (ethnocentrism and xenophobia) or Hitler turned the table on the Jews. Furthermore the German medieval age was closer to Scandinavia , genetically, than Germany during WWII (thanks to events like thirty years war) so he sought to increase the nordicness of the Germans through such programs as Lebensraum and the SS having strict racial standards for joining :



    https://paulcooijmans.com/evolution/...evolution.html
    I find it ironic that you say what is being discussed in the video is anti-intellectual and then prove you don't understand what is being discussed. Instead of discussing Hegel's influence, you go on about 'Hitler's philosophy is he didn't like Jews." That's so very insightful.

    The problem with the stupid isn't that they're stupid but that they don't know they're stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebastianus Rex View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by lei.talk View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sebastianus Rex View Post
    It is becoming increasingly established that Hitler was male prostitute during his youth
    and had many jewish clients in Vienna.

    where can we find the documentation
    of hitler's time as a prostitute to jewish homosexuals?
    Several sources actually, the 1945 book The German Vice, the book The Hidden Hitler, The Pink Swastika among others.

    the claims in these three books
    could not be verified and were removed from the main hitler page.

    other pages were created
    to address the unsubstantiated claims.


    Quote Originally Posted by Sebastianus Rex View Post
    There's also a 70 page US Intelligence Report from 1943,
    the male dormitory/hostel where he spent 3 years in Vienna was
    a known place where elderly men went in search for younger men.

    the same charaterisation
    could truly be stated of my book-store, but —

    that does not mean more than a fraction of one per cent of my customers
    were practicing philhellenes

    and is not evidence against any particular customer.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sebastianus Rex View Post
    On his entourage/ inner circle there was several known (or closet) homosexuals, his chauffer and personal friend Emile Maurice ( who was admittedly half Jewish btw), Rudolf Hess (who was Hitler's cell mate in Landsberg and a notorious cross dresser nicknamed Fraulein Anna among homosexual circles), and of course Rohm among several others.

    there were more close associates in my life
    than in hitler's that fell in to those descriptions

    and, yet, some how
    my personal proclivities were never influenced
    in those directions.

    why would any one irrationally conclude
    that hitler must have been.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lei.talk View Post

    the claims in these three books
    could not be verified and were removed from the main hitler page.

    other pages were created
    to address the unsubstantiated claims.




    the same charaterisation
    could truly be stated of my book-store, but —

    that does not mean more than a fraction of one per cent of my customers
    were practicing philhellenes

    and is not evidence against any particular customer.



    there were more close associates in my life
    than in hitler's that fell in to those descriptions

    and, yet, some how
    my personal proclivities were never influenced
    in those directions.

    why would any one irrationally conclude
    that hitler must have been.

    Of course that Wikipedia being a CIA project is completely controlled and, like the fake fact checking websites, will always push the official narrative and allow only a certain degree of counter narrative to be deemed as conspiracy theories, revisionism etc.

    If you look for example at Geni.com (specialized in genealogy) it is admitted on Hitler's page that one of his nicknames was "Jacob", why don't they tell you that at Wikipedia or NatGeo documentaries?
    https://www.geni.com/people/Adolf-Hi...00008260736732

    Perhaps because on his paternal grandmother Schikelgruber lineage if one goes back a couple of generations will find 3 consecutive Jakob/Jacob...
    https://www.geni.com/people/Jakob-Sc...00008278038066
    https://www.geni.com/people/Jakob-Sc...00008277744975
    https://www.geni.com/people/Jacob-Sc...00008277808880


    On his mother side, follow the Wally's lineage and you'll end with another 2 Jakobs...both named Jakob Weil which is as Jewish as it gets. Besides the Weil surname was changed to Wally, what group of people are known for constantly changing/modifying their surnames? The same on his paternal Heidler lineage, Hiedler, Huettler, Huettler all adopted surnames until finally his father Alois changed it to Hitler (he was born Heidler). Does any of this sounds normal for regular "Austrian" families ?
    https://www.geni.com/people/Jakob-We...00008260874615
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weil_(surname)
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    Europe is fake, european race doesn't exist, it's just a conglomeration of retardeds from their own land.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebastianus Rex View Post
    Of course that Wikipedia being a CIA project is completely controlled...

    being one of the original wikipedians
    and still very active
    (first encountering jim
    when he moderated an objectivism discussion group
    thirty years ago — he, later, moved to san diego
    a short drive from my farm),

    please — explain to me
    how the c.i.a. has controlled and manipulated me
    for over twenty years.

    while, in the confederate states,
    it may be common to refer to a grown man as "Jimmy" — i refuse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lei.talk View Post

    being one of the original wikipedians
    and still very active
    (first encountering jim
    when he moderated an objectivism discussion group
    thirty years ago — he, later, moved to san diego
    a short drive from my farm),

    please — explain to me
    how the c.i.a. has controlled and manipulated me
    for over twenty years.

    while, in the confederate states,
    it may be common to refer to a grown man as "Jimmy" — i refuse.
    Evidently the vast majority of the articles are of no consequence and not subjected to censorship or control.

    But you tell me what you think of this, and I'm using mainly Wikipedia articles...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Wales
    Testimony before Senate Homeland Security Committee
    On December 11, 2007, Wales testified before to the United States Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs.[114] He also submitted written testimony to the Senate Committee entitled "E-Government 2.0: Improving Innovation, Collaboration and Access".[114]: 85–90 

    Senator Joe Lieberman introduced Wales by stating:

    We are very glad to have as a witness Jimmy Wales, the founder of Wikipedia, one of the most thrilling examples of what collaborative technology can produce. We have asked Mr. Wales to take us through some of the ideas behind Wikipedia and then to relate them to our jurisdiction, which is to say to help us understand how similar technologies and collaborative activities can be applied to government for greater information sharing and communication, both within the government, but also between the government and the public. In fact, quite encouragingly, the intelligence community has already developed and is using a process collaborative technology that they call Intellipedia, which is based directly on the Wikipedia model. So, Mr. Wales, if imitation is a form of flattery, you should feel flattered. And the aim of this is to foster collaboration and information across the intelligence community, obviously on a closed site.[114]: 2 
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellipedia

    Wales has visited Israel over ten times. He has said that he is "a strong supporter of Israel". In 2015, he was awarded one of the Dan David Prizes, an international award of $1 million given yearly at Tel Aviv University (10 percent of the prize goes to doctoral students); Wales was chosen for spearheading what the prize committee called the "information revolution."[129]
    Wales married Kate Garvey at Wesley's Chapel in London on October 6, 2012.[137] Garvey is Tony Blair's former diary secretary; the couple met in Davos, Switzerland.[138][139] Wales has three daughters: one with Rohan and two with Garvey.[1][140]
    Garvey was selected by the World Economic Forum in 2007[14] as a "Young Global Leader", a designation awarded to persons under 40 who have shown leadership qualities.[15][16]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kate_Garvey
    Kate Garvey (born c. 1971) is an English public relations executive and a former aide to British prime minister Tony Blair. She is a co-founder of Project Everyone, a communications and campaigning agency promoting the United Nations' Sustainable Development Goals.[2][3]

    Kate Garvey
    Born
    1971/1972 (age 50–51)[1]
    Garvey is married to Jimmy Wales, the co-founder of Wikipedia. It is Wales' third marriage and Garvey's first.[5]

    The couple met in Monaco in 2009 and then began dating in 2010 after meeting again at Davos.[5][18] They had both been Young Global Leaders in 2007.[5] In 2011, Wales moved to Britain.[5] They married in October 2012 at Wesley's Chapel in London.[1]
    Are we supposed to believe that Kate Garvey's (if that's her real name) birth date is unknown and even the year is uncertain? That's beyond strange for the wife of the founder of Wikipedia. Why her bio is obviously scrubbed ?

    Why there's not a Wikipedia article for the Garvey's UN backed "Project Everyone" ?
    If you take a look at their website it's clearly a globalist propaganda tool regurgitating the usual mantras of the 2030 agenda.
    https://www.project-everyone.org/about-us/

    An interesting read:
    https://www.ineteconomics.org/perspe...es-to-big-tech
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebastianus Rex View Post
    Evidently the vast majority of the articles
    are of no consequence and not subjected to censorship or control...


    An interesting read:

    did you read this article:





    it is a relief to know
    there is an extremely effective and experienced staff
    insulating all of us worker bees at wikipedia
    so we can focus on our main goal:





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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebastianus Rex View Post
    Why fraudulent ? It is becoming increasingly established that Hitler was male prostitute during his youth and had many jewish clients in Vienna, and so that the SD officers were mostly homossexuals.

    Besides there's an undeniable homoerotic allure to the whole Nazi aesthetics, I don't see the problem admitting it, we are individuals, it doesn't make you or other gay people better or worse person's because of it, like it doesn't make me a better or worse person for being white/Portuguese which are groups that enslaved and committed many atrocities and so did heterosexuals and I'm one.

    Be a bit more mature about it.
    No, that is a retarded fringe theory made up by Tankies and weird Christians. There were a handful of Homosexuals among the Nazi brass but most of them (ex: Rohm) were purged

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    Hitler was not a homosexual. He was in love with Stefanie Rabatsch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fortnite777 View Post
    No, that is a retarded fringe theory made up by Tankies and weird Christians. There were a handful of Homosexuals among the Nazi brass but most of them (ex: Rohm) were purged
    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Hitler was not a homosexual. He was in love with Stefanie Rabatsch.
    You mean Stephanie Isak. another curious "Austrian" surname...that supposed platonic love is attributed only by Kubizek on his book, everyone admits they never even spoke:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_...fanie_Rabatsch
    Kubizek, a childhood friend and later biographer of his childhood experience with Hitler, wrote about Stefanie in his book, Adolf Hitler, My Childhood Friend. He alleges that Hitler fell in love with her after she passed by him during her daily daughter-mother stroll in Linz, glancing at him. In Kubizek's account, although in love with her to the point of suicide, Hitler never once spoke with her, and she later married an Austrian army officer. Stefanie stated in interviews that she was unaware of Hitler's feelings towards her, and little is known about her life.
    Nothing about Adolf Heidler/Hiedler/Huettler ( take your pick) accepted biographies make sense.

    There's no proof he was heterosexual either, that he had sexual relations with any women, infact it is widely pointed that him and Eva Braun didn't had sex, slept in separated rooms and according to testimonies of maids/valets there was no signs of sexual activity in the sheets.

    Wikipedia admits that he worked for Inteligence, he was an Army Intelligence agent with the mission to infiltrare the Workers Party (that in the future became the NSDAP) so this increases exponentially the chance all his bio was falsified/made up by german intelligence.

    Also, are we supposed to believe that after the 1923 Putsch he was sentenced to 5 years at Landsberg prison and was set free just 6 months later? That's how the Weimar Republic treated dangerous agitators who were attempting coups d'État? Lol, seriously...

    Another nonsensical and unexplainable fact, we are told this about the murderer of the jewish communist Kurt Eisner, Anton Graf von Arco auf Valley (who was also jewish from the very rich Oppenheim banking family) :
    https://www.geni.com/people/Emmy-Hen...00019347439125

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anton_...rco_auf_Valley
    Arco-Valley was tried for murder in January 1920. He was found guilty and sentenced to death, but his sentence was reduced to life imprisonment. The State Prosecutor said of him, "If the whole German youth were imbued with such a glowing enthusiasm we could face the future with confidence."[6] He served his sentence at Landsberg Prison in cell 70, and in 1924 he was evicted from his cell to make way for Adolf Hitler. He was released in 1925, and was on probation until 1927, when he was pardoned.[7]
    Another big LOL.


    Curious that was found a file from the French secret services on Hitler that put in question the official bios and every new discovery seems to point always in the same direction:
    https://www.lemonde.fr/europe/articl...9349_3214.html

    https://www.thelocal.de/20091120/23407

    The director of the Archives Nationales Isabelle Neuschwander told the paper that the report from 1924 was found in a safe that contains some of the institutions’ most important documents.

    It refers to Hitler as “Adolphe Jacob,” who the French intelligence agents defined as a journalist due to activities at the NSDAP (Nazi Party) daily, the Völkischer Beobachter. Giving Hitler the incorrect name Jacob may have been due to a popular rumour at the time that said he had Jewish roots, the paper said.
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