Do we need EU? Pls vote!

**Blondie** · 06-09-2023, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by Duke

Where is the option:
We dont need it, but its great?

Because it makes no sense

**~~Victor~~** · 06-09-2023, 02:14 PM

Like 70% of voters for both variants are non EU citizens

**Jana** · 06-09-2023, 02:29 PM

Pro EU. As trade/economic Union. Common army is a good idea too, which I support, as long as national armies remain separately.

Anti federal EU and Union of same ideology, values or foreign policy (except most basic stuff). I don't think EU should tell it's members how to deal with their internal stuff like immigration, gay rights or similar.

EU or some kind of supra national organisation is necessary for us small countries, so yes I support the project.

Additionaly, I'd like EU to stop being US dependant (to archeive which building EU Army is most important) and improve trade links with Pacific region and other markets where future lays.

**ugochaves** · 06-09-2023, 02:39 PM

Originally Posted by Feiichy

Pro EU. As trade/economic Union. Common army is a good idea too, which I support, as long as national armies remain separately.

Anti federal EU and Union of same ideology, values or foreign policy (except most basic stuff). I don't think EU should tell it's members how to deal with their internal stuff like immigration, gay rights or similar.

EU or some kind of supra national organisation is necessary for us small countries, so yes I support the project.

Additionaly, I'd like EU to stop being US dependant (to archeive which building EU Army is most important) and improve trade links with Pacific region and other markets where future lays.

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**ugochaves** · 06-09-2023, 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by Vandor

Like 70% of voters for both variants are non EU citizens

How did you vote?

**Jana** · 06-09-2023, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by ugochaves

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it's okay, I'd like Russia as part of EU

**~~Victor~~** · 06-09-2023, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by Feiichy

it's okay, I'd like Russia as part of EU

It would be impossible even some 15-20 years ago as EU back then already started transforming into something not based only on economics, with NATO memberships becoming almost identical to EU ones.

**Jana** · 06-09-2023, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by Vandor

It would be impossible even some 15-20 years ago as EU back then already started transforming into something not based only on economics, with NATO memberships becoming almost identical to EU ones.

EU citizens largerly don't support Federal EU, except some from biggest old members. It should be economic Union of all European countries with common Army otherwise it's geopolitical power will remain laughable.

**Damião de Góis** · 06-09-2023, 02:49 PM

Yes it's a good idea and a good concept when done properly. We just have to look at Brexit to see how it's like to be isolated.

**ugochaves** · 06-09-2023, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by Vandor

It would be impossible even some 15-20 years ago as EU back then already started transforming into something not based only on economics, with NATO memberships becoming almost identical to EU ones.

The early Putin aspired to the EU and NATO, he was rejected. The USA is a country that resists the unification of the EU and Russia