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    Quote Originally Posted by ugochaves View Post
    The early Putin aspired to the EU and NATO, he was rejected. The USA is a country that resists the unification of the EU and Russia
    exactly.

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    No, we don't. Only constructive economic collobaration is welcome, I strongly oppose political integration.

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    For Ireland I wish they left it, and join with a CANZUK type alliance instead, but I don't expect it anytime soon.
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    Are Scots still mad at English for Brexit?

    What do English people think, is life better or worse since Brexit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    Because it makes no sense
    It does tho, because countries that need it the most are the ones with biggest exports, no taxes, no customs, easier to get EU buyers, but since we are not big exporters, we dont really need it, but its great, because its easier to do business in general.

    Common laws are trivial, and can be easily circumvented, just call on tradition, the end.

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    The worst thing is free movement.

    And besides this the EU is inter-national socialism with all well-known disadvantages of socialism: The responsibility is transferred to an elevated and detached level where there is not anymore cared and identified sufficiently for being motivated to do the tasks so well as if they were your own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rothaer View Post
    The worst thing is free movement.
    Thats the best thing, and worst thing in same time.

    Its worst because of security issues, and illegal immigrants, best is because of business and travel

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duke View Post
    Thats the best thing, and worst thing in same time.

    Its worst because of security issues, and illegal immigrants, best is because of business and travel
    What's the problem to have an ID and pass through the border? I think having controlled border is one of definitions of sovereignty for any state. Sure it should not be regular passport with stamps, but an ID card for EU interstate travellings, at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vandor View Post
    What's the problem to have an ID and pass through the border? I think having controlled border is one of definitions of sovereignty for any state. Sure it should not be regular passport with stamps, but an ID card for EU interstate travellings, at least.
    well, open borders remove lots of bureaucracy, and ID cards can bee easly forged, so its kind of a moot point, you need to go full in.

    It was to make Europe more simmilar to US or Russia, get rid of small economies, and make one big European one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duke View Post
    well, open borders remove lots of bureaucracy, and ID cards can bee easly forged
    With open borders you just need to enter any EU state someway, reach some Belgian, French or any other ethnic ghetto and stay there forever.

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