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    Quote Originally Posted by Joeary View Post
    lmao, but yeah, still no evidence that there existed zero keltic nordid-north atlantid hallstatt phenotypes
    You already got humiliated in another thread in this field. For whatever reason, all studies imply Proto-Indo-Iranians looked similiar to Proto-Slavs
    Btw. what makes you think that early Slavs didn't have Hallstatt, Keltic Nordic and North Atlantid as a minority, but Proto-Indo-Iranians had? After all, Slavic peoples assimilated some Germanic, Gothic tribes during their migrations...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veslan View Post
    You already got humiliated in another thread in this field. For whatever reason, all studies imply Proto-Indo-Iranians looked similiar to Proto-Slavs
    Btw. what makes you think that early Slavs didn't have Hallstatt, Keltic Nordic and North Atlantid as a minority, but Proto-Indo-Iranians had? After all, Slavic peoples assimilated some Germanic, Gothic tribes during their migrations...
    all studies? you mean soviet studies from the early 60s and not modern ones who have clearly moved on from the archaic methods of describing precise phenotypes based on metrics alone and thinking that certian phenotypes really are exclusive to certain part of europes because of a magical component in them? also i agree proto slavs might looked northern european, but a apart of me says that they incorporated Uralic admixture

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joeary View Post
    all studies? you mean soviet studies from the early 60s and not modern ones who have clearly moved on from the archaic methods of describing precise phenotypes based on metrics alone
    Metrics are the most important. Pigmentation and other non-cranial traits are subsidiary:



    You don't need any genetic study to determine which one of these skulls belong to a Caucasoid, Negroid, or Mongoloid person. This also applies to their distinctive phenotypes.

    Oh... but pigmentation matters equally you would say?





    Take a guess which one of these three equally light pigmented persons is Asian, White and Black

    Quote Originally Posted by Joeary View Post
    agree proto slavs might looked northern european, but a apart of me says that they incorporated Uralic admixture
    That could be true, but Proto-Indo-Iranians were also living close to Ural mountains and encountered Finnic peoples. In fact, in modern Finnish language the word "slave" is derived from the word "Aryan" (Orja). This is because Proto-Ugro-Finns lived in close proximity to Proto-Indo-Iranians and some of them became their slaves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veslan View Post
    Metrics are the most important. Pigmentation and other non-cranial traits are subsidiary:



    You don't need any genetic study to determine which one of these skulls belong to a Caucasoid, Negroid, or Mongoloid person. This also applies to their distinctive phenotypes.

    Oh... but pigmentation matters equally you would say?





    Take a guess which one of these three equally light pigmented persons is Asian, White and Black


    That could be true, but Proto-Indo-Iranians were also living close to Ural mountains and encountered Finnic peoples. In fact, in modern Finnish language the word "slave" is derived from the word "Aryan" (Orja). This is because Proto-Ugro-Finns lived in close proximity to Proto-Indo-Iranians and some of them became their slaves.
    belonging to each type of these skulls would also entail polymorphism in regards to direct facial features, not every negriod looks the same nor an asian, but they mutually share more similarities between each in contrast to outside of their race, for asians its flat faces, for negriods more weakly protruding chins and thicker lips noses etc, but as far as im concerned, there are zero skulls classified as "atlantid" or "pontid" so im inclinded to think such phenotypes dont really exist

    also for the last part, you can check the g25 admixtures for sintashta and such, predominantly were identical to cwc without any other exogenous admixing, but there are some that have asian and additional yamnaya related admixture however
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joeary View Post
    but as far as im concerned, there are zero skulls classified as "atlantid" or "pontid" so im inclinded to think such phenotypes dont really exist
    Here two Pontid skulls for you (from medieval Poland):



    Unfortunetaly, I don't have any Atlantid skulls in my assets to post.

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    Irano-Nordid + Proto Iranid, likely some Iranian genes popping up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veslan View Post
    Here two Pontid skulls for you (from medieval Poland):



    Unfortunetaly, I don't have any Atlantid skulls in my assets to post.
    is it listed/described as pontid in any literature?

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