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That's so true. And I have witnessed that in person: not too long ago there were mot many cheaters in Peru because peruvian women got to be the most horrible and unpleasant creatures the world has ever seen... but now that more and more venezuelan women started to arrive, infidelities have been on the rise.
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If you imagine only men are likely to cheat, then you must be born yesterday. However women are a lot less likely to admit it or ever tell it to anyone. Women and men are much more similar than society makes it look like. Many humans have shitty characters. They have no issues with cheating on their partner, betraying their friends, taking advantage of the kindness of others...yes, most people have low morals. Now it's your problem what kind of people you allow in your proximity. This type of people usually are fast in accusing everyone else, trying to break your trust in people with statements like: all men are cheating, no woman can love a man, she only loves his money bla bla bla bla.. For the honest people out there - don't fall for this BSs. There are many others like you out there. Just keep looking and don't settle for less!57% of men overall admit to committing infidelity at some point in their lives
54% of women overall admit to committing infidelity in one or more of their relationships
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Those that said 'no', they're lying.
Plus, even the question itself... asking if they'd "allow" a man to do something.
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In general, if you really aren't concerned with where your husband's attention is going, you are not that good of a wife anyways, or at least are functioning out of naivity or desperation.
Now, the world is not perfect. Let's take Rachel being barren, as an example. She made a selfless and miserable act for her husband and gave him her handmaid. Same as Sarah. But did Jacob not regard Rachel as is real wife? Did Abraham not regard Sarah as his real wife? My takeaway is that a man deserving of such a good wife would remain as faithful to her as she allows, and a woman deserving of a such a man would sacrifice her own heart's content for him as well. They both would be predisposed to the eachother's will first. The intricacies of these same stories also make it very clear for us, as good common sense would also dictate, that monogamy is in fact ideal for all parties. Yet, this is not a perfect world. Low caliber women don't tend to care if their man is monogamous to them, because they are only concerned with instinctual immediate provision. But when you are talking about higher caliber people, who run not only on instinct but on a profound moral compass which entails more foresight, monogamy is their obvious choice even though, given circumstance, they would sacrifice that ideal for their partner. Jacob chose Rachel, the rest of the wives were given to him by means not of his own choosing but of his own duty. Abraham chose Sarah, and Hagar was given to him by not his, but his wife's, lack of faith that she would conceive.
A good man is a "one woman kind of man". A good woman is a woman who takes issue with inviting others into the sacred bond which may threaten their children but will do so if she is convinced it is for a greater good than for just herself. Both in this case would be doing the others will, making their will one for the sake of the other being their own flesh. The law at its purest form indicates that 2 become one; not 3, not 100, but 2. There is however a more intricate story necessitated by the need for meaning, which the fallen world provides, that causes for the need that women will be provided for regardless of her status as "the first wife" which is obviously the highest status for a married woman. This is merciful to low status women, while not negating the foundational principle of "2 becoming 1", that is monogamy as the perfect form of marriage. Afterall, God has one wife, illustrated by the fact that the marriage of Revelation does not occur until the "staff" is mended back into one piece, as well as the fact that the cause for divorce from God was the fact that the kingdoms of Israel and Judah had separated (as Israel then came to see it fit that they would make their own alter so as to not pay the taxes that Judah saw it fit to cruelly impose out of competition- which arises ALWAYS from polygamy).
I'm done, I just hate how people always twist the Bible in this way to affirm their own lust rather than being honest about the clear teachings therein.
"Virtue grows stronger at the wound"
"There is safety in discrimination"
"James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the 12 tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting." James 1:1
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There are women who don’t accept the idea of their partner having sex outside their relationship and cannot lie to themselves about it. Should they lie to themselves into accepting it?! This is not for everyone, as simple as that.
It’s not about “allowing” him to do something. Like “allowing” him to have a beer with friends, for example. Understandably, most of the people are annoyed by controlling behavior and micromanaging coming from their partner.
But being in a relationship, it’s not only about what one of the sides wants to do sexually. There are also feelings and emotions attached to it. Plus having sex with another woman or other women can have some risks (like getting and transmitting STDs / STIs and so on). People involved in open (or half-open) relationships acknowledge this as well. That’s why plenty of them make a deal where they agree on certain boundaries and check themselves regularly. The idea is to stick to an agreement, to make it work. For example, one can have sex with another person, but not fall in love with them. Still, it can fail sometimes. Feelings can change, for both sides. Men can fall in love with another or other lover/lovers too.
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Nah, would punch every woman who tried to approach my guy. (If I was in a relationship ofc)
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This goody two shoes narrative sounds good on paper but it's just ignoring the nature of men pretending it doesn't exist or it's the same than women. If it was just a matter of will, that would be great except it's not even physically possible. Females can only begin to imagine the horniest they have ever been and multiply, not by 2, not by 5, but by 20 times. That's tuesday for a guy. Sex is as vital to us as drinking or sleeping, in an order of magnitude no woman has ever experienced. We control it already much more than some imagine.
You will never satisfy a man in the long run and keep up with his sexual drive, you can try to castrate this drive and put a leash on him every single day of his life which is what most women do these days (because of course they know otherwise they would cheat) then act all surprised he doesn't want to touch you anymore (there are some threads on TA like that...). The reality is the majority of those marriages fail and so many men are addicted to porn (is it cheating as well), while it might do the trick for some, others who are actually accustomed to relationships can't subsitute it for real sex. Unfortunately for us we also like some variety (yes we are biologocally cursed with that too) fucking for 1836th time in a row the same woman, as formidable as she might be and loved to death, is not gonna cut it. You might find some npc guy who are willing to trade some years of exclusive sex with you, only because they would have none otherwise. Many men are so desesperate to get regular sex they will sign that short term deal. The very same who usually give a low key cuck vibe come out of the woodwoork in such threads, yet turn into absolute animals, willing to fuck ANYTHING once their wives aren't around anymore or you go on a trip with them (all men know "these good guys"). If we were only men discussing this in the thread we couldn't keep a straight face at the idea having sex with only one woman for the rest of our life.
All this is the result of decades demonizing men's type of sexuality as well as adopting female's sexual preference, and now you see 18y old couples with a little gestapo officier as girlfriend. Men shouldn't settle for this miserable existence either. I understand women want exclusivity as much as men but we bring different things to a relationship. Yes it's a double standard based on biological reality wether we accept it or not. As a man you can certainly make some sacrifices when you get married for the greater good as much as you can, but there will be consequences, either porn, or something else, he will find a way regardless. Marriage was initially no more than establishing a pecking order and providing for one woman above all. Like no man was ever a good father to his childs because of that, is laughable. The rest is women's press Disney fairy tales and modern concessions of an increasingly gynocentric world.
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