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    You claim something- people will question it if they see any reason for doing so. Pretty basic human discours.

    People critique this term because its used on people who do not look alike, i guess- there will be many more reasons not to like it if you are searching for reasons.


    Just like that "Atlanto Med + Keltic Nordic" claim. Who invented even that Keltic Nordid? It was "Keltic" in Hooton, who seperated it from "Atlantid" aka his "Nordic-Mediterranean", and Keltic Nordic by. Coon. Some authors used Atlantid as "Mediterranean + Cromagnid", but it seems Hootons definition became prevelant but not in exact way (as people will use North Atlanitd/Pontid as well).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Immanenz View Post
    You claim something- people will question it if they see any reason for doing so. Pretty basic human discours.

    People critique this term because its used on people who do not look alike, i guess- there will be many more reasons not to like it if you are searching for reasons.


    Just like that "Atlanto Med + Keltic Nordic" claim. Who invented even that Keltic Nordid? It was "Keltic" in Hooton, who seperated it from "Atlantid" aka his "Nordic-Mediterranean", and Keltic Nordic by. Coon. Some authors used Atlantid as "Mediterranean + Cromagnid", but it seems Hootons definition became prevelant but not in exact way (as people will use North Atlanitd/Pontid as well).
    If you pay attencion to what I wrote, you'll see that I never claimed anything, I just said that
    as a mix of Atlanto-Med and Keltic Nordid, I don't see a better name for it
    , where's the claim? Same for the North Atlantid, I said
    it being, a mixture of Keltic-Nordid and Atlantid, it doesn't have to have something do with the Atlantic facade
    , where is the claim here? I literally just said that the names fit the types, I didn't claim anything.
    But thanks for (part, I guess of) the explanation I was hoping to get.
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    I (again) don't think any athropologist said that, and I didn't claim anything, various athropologists gave a lot of different names to a lot of phenotypes, I just said that the names matched the phenotypes, did you get it now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lei.talk View Post

    george montandon explains it:

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    jan czekanowski explains it:

    Thanks for this, I coudn't finding it.
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    Question are you saying your original post completely lacked any substance of reality

    Quote Originally Posted by Jgab602 View Post
    I (again) don't think any anthropologist said that, and I didn't claim anything...do you get it now?

    why would you post text
    that lacked any correspondence to reality

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    ...various athropologists gave a lot of different names to a lot of phenotypes...

    can you provide any examples
    or is this an other case of you not making any claims

    Quote Originally Posted by Jgab602 View Post
    ...I just said that the names matched the phenotypes...

    in fact,
    the pairs of phenotypes you posted
    do not compose the phenotype you claimed "
    didn't claim".


    you have — repeatedly — been provided authoritative sources
    in url-links. why have you not utilised them
    to improve your knowledge?

    why merely echo
    the baseless opinions of one's e-peers

    (who are - in turn - merely echoing the baseless opinions
    of their e-peers - who quote a face-less poseur
    that never read the text or any scientific papers)?
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    Lightbulb if you are looking for the facts on this topic — we use this tool at wikipedia

    Quote Originally Posted by Jgab602 View Post
    Thanks for this, I couldn't finding it.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Jgab602 View Post
    I (again) don't think any athropologist said that, and I didn't claim anything, various athropologists gave a lot of different names to a lot of phenotypes, I just said that the names matched the phenotypes, did you get it now?
    Very easy explanation: I say "My name is Joe Brian" i automatically claim that as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Immanenz View Post
    Very easy explanation: I say "My name is Joe Brian" i automatically claim that as well.
    Right! Now show me in my text, with context, where did I say that it had to be named like that, I literally used names that were already beeing used and said that they fit them well, how is that a claim?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lei.talk View Post


    As I said thank you, I couldn't find it (sorry for the spelling mistake)

    and I also didn't think of searching for subnordic. It just didn't come to my mind that it could be spelled that way, sorry for that, I guess .
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    Quote Originally Posted by lei.talk View Post

    why would you post text
    that lacked any correspondence to reality
    What? I literally only said: If it's a mix of these two phenotypes ((Keltic) Nordid and Atlanto-Med), the name "Atlantid" makes sense, I didn't say it has to have that name, I just couldn't understand why it can't also have that name, since it's already beeing used.

    Quote Originally Posted by lei.talk View Post

    can you provide any examples
    or is this an other case of you not making any claims
    How is that a case of me not making claims? But yeah, of course I can, ex: Ibero-Insular by Eickstedt is supposed to be the same phenotype as Small Mediterranean by Biasutti and, yet they have different names, that's what I was saying, if you didn't understand.

    Quote Originally Posted by lei.talk View Post

    in fact,
    the pairs of phenotypes you posted
    do not compose the phenotype you claimed "
    didn't claim".
    So the Nordo-Med, or Nordic-Mediterranean or Proto-Atlantid (whatever is it's name) isn't a mix of Keltic Nordid and Atlantid? Because I was using this page, as it's (one of) the source(s) of the physicalanthropologywiki.fandom.com page for Atlantid, I wasn't making claims.
    https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/rg-paleo.htm

    Quote Originally Posted by lei.talk View Post
    you have — repeatedly — been provided authoritative sources
    in url-links. why have you not utilised them
    to improve your knowledge?
    ???

    Quote Originally Posted by lei.talk View Post

    why merely echo
    the baseless opinions of one's e-peers
    (who are - in turn - merely echoing the baseless opinions
    of their e-peers - who quote a face-less poseur
    that never read the text or any scientific papers)?
    What peers did I echo?
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