NATO plans May military exercises in Georgia

[Beorn]

NATO's announcement of the exercises, which will involve 1,300 troops from 19 countries, comes at a time when it is seeking to rebuild ties with Russia damaged as a result of Moscow's intervention in Georgia.

How can you "rebuild ties" with a country you are slapping in the face?

NATO needs to butt out of the Russian sphere of influence and pay more attention to its own.

[The Lawspeaker]

NATO is approaching Russia's borders, NATO is threatening to create the anti-ICBM shield.

And, no, there will be no war if the Russian army re-taked the Baltic States or the Ukraine. As any conventional forces of NATO attacking Russia will be destroyed by tactical nuclear warhead, turning Poland or Denmark into radioactive shitpile, and any ICBMs' launch by the US will lead to equally devastating counter strike.

And Yanks aren't stupid enough to die for the Baltics... or Poles... or even the Dutch.

You're wrong. You are dead wrong.
If any member state would call in article 5 Russia is doomed. And I don't think a war with Russia would be conventional. Why ? It's 2008... not 1950.
And I am afraid that Russia's nuclear capabilities are overestimated. How can a country that cannot even properly maintain a nuclear power station (like your ticking time bomb at Mayak or the one that has gone off in 1986 at Chernobyl) safely stockpile a large amount of nuclear weapons ?

First of all, there was no invasion of Russian troops.
Second, I'm glad that nobody recognize them as sovereign nations. It will inevitably lead to their incorporation into Russia, and after that...

Well let me look up the meaning of the word "invasion" for you. Because that is what it was:

1: an act of invading ; especially : incursion of an army for conquest or plunder
2: the incoming or spread of something usually hurtful

Yes- we know that Russia is imperialistic. In essence no different from the Third Reich and it will end that way too.

[Hors]

If any member state would call in article 5 Russia is doomed.

They were talking more or less the same about Georgia. And?

And I don't think a war with Russia would be conventional. Why ? It's 2008... not 1950.

Russia will not be fighting a conventional war, for sure. It will simply use its vast nuclear arsenals.

And I am afraid that Russia's nuclear capabilities are overestimated.

Don't be

How can a country that cannot even properly maintain a nuclear power station (like your ticking time bomb at Mayak or the one that has gone off in 1986 at Chernobyl) safely stockpile a large amount of nuclear weapons ?

Safely or not, they're there, together with HUGE amount of biological, bacteriological anbd chemical weaponry which alone can leave the Earth without ANY advanced life forms.

Well let me look up the meaning of the word "invasion" for you. Because that is what it was:

No, it wasn't. I've explained it several times already in the Russian section. What's the matter with you? Do you have the Alzheimer decease?

[Lenny]

Georgian imperialism

Holding the mountain passes in S.O. and Abkhazia makes defense of the Georgian state pretty easy; whereas having scores of enemy combat brigades there is a defensive nightmare. There is absolutely no way to defend the country in the latter case. Holding that small area is thus vital to Georgian national security.

Neither side are ethnolinguistically Ossetian (an Iranian language), so the question is: Does one support Georgia's right to defend itself, or does one support Russia being able to have Georgia in a West-Berlin-type stranglehold, able to easily conquer it at any time?

[Hors]

Russia is in positon to conquer Georgia anytime, mountain passes or not.

The real question is, however, does one support internation law and rights and obligations of Russia to support its international peacekeeping forces in Georgia within limits of the international treaty, signed by both Russia and Georgia, or does one support Georgian genocide of Georgian ethnic minorities and NATO hysterical bullshitting about Russia?

[Thorum]

How can you "rebuild ties" with a country you are slapping in the face?

NATO needs to butt out of the Russian sphere of influence and pay more attention to its own.

Wat and Loki, I think you hit the nail on the head. NATO is deliberately being provocative and projecting power in a region it has no business being in!!

Today's latest from Novosti:

"Georgian opposition say 23 hospitalized after clashes with police"

Georgian citizens are still pissed that their government started a war with Russia and wants President Saakashvili to resign.

[Manifest Destiny]

Safely or not, they're there, together with HUGE amount of biological, bacteriological anbd chemical weaponry which alone can leave the Earth without ANY advanced life forms.

So the rest of the world would end up the way Russia is now?

[Manifest Destiny]

How can you "rebuild ties" with a country you are slapping in the face?

NATO needs to butt out of the Russian sphere of influence and pay more attention to its own.

I would agree were it not for the fact that Russia thinks it's sphere of influence is actually a sphere of ownership.

[Hors]

So the rest of the world would end up the way Russia is now?

Of course, no. The rest of the world is clever enough to cry loudly but do nothing when the Russian army is on the move.

[Manifest Destiny]

Of course, no. The rest of the world is clever enough to cry loudly but do nothing when the Russian army is on the move.

No, I meant be the way Russia is now; without advanced life forms.

And the last time the Russian army was truly on the move was when they were being chased out of Afghanistan. I'm sure plenty of people were crying...tears of laughter.