Western Ukrainian Genetics

[sevruk]

Bastarnae

[cass]

I tested W. Ukrainians using ancient Ukrainian and Polish samples
In my opinion, it was not the Goths and Celts but the Thracians, Scyts, local LBAs and RusVikings that pushed the Western Ukrainians west and north


Target: Ukrainian_Ternopil
Distance: 1.9624% / 0.01962433 | ADC: 0.25x
43.8 Ukraine_High_Medieval_Lutsk_(Slavic_Profile)
32.0 POL_Bodzia_VA
15.8 Ukraine_IA_Thraco-Cimmerian
4.4 Krakauer_Berg
4.0 Ukraine_LBA_Belozerskaya


Target: Ukrainian_Ivano-Frankivsk
Distance: 1.1534% / 0.01153392 | ADC: 0.25x
34.4 Ukraine_High_Medieval_Lutsk_(Slavic_Profile)
18.0 Krakauer_Berg
10.8 Ukraine_LBA_Belozerskaya
9.0 Ukraine_LBA_Verteba
8.8 Ukraine_High_Medieval_Chernigov_(Slavic_Profile)
6.2 Ukraine_Late_Antiquity-Early_Medieval_Chernyakhiv_Legedzine
5.8 POL_Krakow_MA
3.6 Ukraine_Early-High_Medieval_Viking_Age_Shestovitsa_(Mixed_Norse-Finnic_Profile)
2.4 Scythian_IA_Ukraine
1.0 Bell_Beaker_POL

[cass]

Unfortunately, both samples (Ternopil, Ivano-Frankivsk) are only single individuals



These single examples are far more strange
Ukrainian_Chernivetska:EG600019,0.120652,0.067025, 0.058454,0.037145,0.008925,0.014781,0.013866,0.010 846,-0.008795,-0.018953,-0.003735,-0.004196,0.008622,0.00867,-0.005429,-0.006232,-0.006128,-0.00114,-0.00176,-0.002001,-0.005989,0.000247,0.002095,0.00723,0.003473
Ukrainian_Zhitomir:EG600048,0.104717,0.142174,0.00 2263,-0.035207,0.014156,-0.016176,-0.002115,-0.001615,0.003272,0.011663,-0.000812,0.001049,0.000743,0.001514,-0.002036,0.000928,0.00326,0.0019,0.00352,0.000375,-0.001248,-0.004204,0.008504,-0.000723,0.003353

[gixajo]

These parts of Ukraine have a Celtic (French-like) affinity much more than a Germanic one.

If you add French (Celtic-like) references almost all of Germanic will disappear.


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You should study a little better the regions of France and the references before choosing them...

Grand-Est ? One of the most Germanic French references maybe... and the other is a "Flemish-like" outlier. In other words, similar to a "Dutch" group, when precisely some Dutch references are also used as "Germanic" references for some ...

The border between the modern genetic conception of Celtic and Germanic (with G25 at least) is not even clear, ok but well...

Perhaps it would be more correct to say that these references could be called "Celto-Germanic" with a very high Germanic tendency.

But well... Celtic...

[gixajo]

I tested W. Ukrainians using ancient Ukrainian and Polish samples
In my opinion, it was not the Goths and Celts but the Thracians, Scyts, local LBAs and RusVikings that pushed the Western Ukrainians west and north


Target: Ukrainian_Ternopil
Distance: 1.9624% / 0.01962433 | ADC: 0.25x
43.8 Ukraine_High_Medieval_Lutsk_(Slavic_Profile)
32.0 POL_Bodzia_VA
15.8 Ukraine_IA_Thraco-Cimmerian
4.4 Krakauer_Berg
4.0 Ukraine_LBA_Belozerskaya


Target: Ukrainian_Ivano-Frankivsk
Distance: 1.1534% / 0.01153392 | ADC: 0.25x
34.4 Ukraine_High_Medieval_Lutsk_(Slavic_Profile)
18.0 Krakauer_Berg
10.8 Ukraine_LBA_Belozerskaya
9.0 Ukraine_LBA_Verteba
8.8 Ukraine_High_Medieval_Chernigov_(Slavic_Profile)
6.2 Ukraine_Late_Antiquity-Early_Medieval_Chernyakhiv_Legedzine
5.8 POL_Krakow_MA
3.6 Ukraine_Early-High_Medieval_Viking_Age_Shestovitsa_(Mixed_Norse-Finnic_Profile)
2.4 Scythian_IA_Ukraine
1.0 Bell_Beaker_POL


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Has the Davidski datasheet been updated? You are posting a lot of references that I have never seen...

Not just you, many of the forum members that are participating in this thread.

[ugochaves]

You should study a little better the regions of France and the references before choosing them...

Grand-Est ? One of the most Germanic French references maybe... and the other is a "Flemish-like" outlier. In other words, similar to a "Dutch" group, when precisely some Dutch references are also used as "Germanic" references for some ...

The border between the modern genetic conception of Celtic and Germanic (with G25 at least) is not even clear, ok but well...

Perhaps it would be more correct to say that these references could be called "Celto-Germanic" with a very high Germanic tendency.

But well... Celtic...

You work like a Negro (1% of the Negroid is strong in you), offer your links and a calculator. Russki uses the intelligence of a white man, you're high on marijuana again.

[Russki]

You should study a little better the regions of France and the references before choosing them...

Grand-Est ? One of the most Germanic French references maybe... and the other is a "Flemish-like" outlier. In other words, similar to a "Dutch" group, when precisely some Dutch references are also used as "Germanic" references for some ...

The border between the modern genetic conception of Celtic and Germanic (with G25 at least) is not even clear, ok but well...

Perhaps it would be more correct to say that these references could be called "Celto-Germanic" with a very high Germanic tendency.

But well... Celtic...

Grand Est is literally farther away from Germanics than the Iron Age French, you dummy.

[cass]

Has the Davidski datasheet been updated? You are posting a lot of references that I have never seen...

Not just you, many of the forum members that are participating in this thread.

( The coordinates of the samples were taken from The Moriopoulos Collection )

[Abriekman]

Has the Davidski datasheet been updated? You are posting a lot of references that I have never seen...

Not just you, many of the forum members that are participating in this thread.

European https://pastebin.com/eH6z2Bbc

[Loki]

Please guys, remain civil in discussion.