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    I2525, Danube Bulgar

    Y-DNA: Q-YP789 / Q-YP789
    mtDNA: U5a1b1c
    Period: First Bulgarian Empire
    Age: c.940 CE (889-989 calCE)
    Region: Samovodene, Veliko Tarnovo

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    I2525/S1-grave 1 (petrous bone), genetically and anthropologically male. Young adult between 17-22 years old found in flexed position, oriented SE - NW. He lay on his left side, hands folded near his face. Occlusal surface of his upper and lower first molars was heavily worn probably due to hard food consumption. His bones were large and strongly developed. His height was calculated 167.4 cm. Above his left eyebrow, a 1.5 cm healed cut mark was observed (by Alpaslan-Roodenberg).

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    Here, I've subtracted the Bulgar ancestry and separated the minor African noise.

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    BGR_Samovodene_MA,0.108132,0.070072,0.042992,0.010659,0.007694,-0.001673,0.00799,0.003461,-0.003886,0.00164,-0.002436,0,0.003568,0.007844,-0.005972,-0.012463,-0.014864,0.001774,0.001885,0.007504,-0.013102,0.001113,0,0.002771,-0.001796
    Bulgar,0.0875794,-0.1186851,0.0703279,0.0462278,-0.0457662,0.0004012,0.0045986,0.0057238,-0.0131025,-0.0242801,-0.0069555,-0.0011277,0.0023117,-0.0157495,0.0150784,0.0012691,-0.0115338,0.0004507,0.0022112,0.0068453,-0.0173337,0.0021481,-0.0009199,0.004288,-0.0040285
    Balkan,0.1236314,0.1418216,0.0307964,0.0039445,0.0273594,-0.0000452,0.0056086,0.0050026,0.0016152,0.003348,0.0011806,0.0007428,0.0024229,0.0127159,-0.0118353,-0.0076719,-0.003111,0.0000644,0.0024686,0.0001933,-0.0033669,0.0017256,0.001126,-0.0023938,-0.0000519
    Noise,-6.362768318,-6.481103617,2.343521138,-3.852380731,-1.356640343,-1.739445191,2.639508837,-1.716897641,-1.820159541,5.202372724,-1.581394392,-0.274432199,1.175323144,2.257165889,-0.876960296,-7.034022115,-9.650411202,1.613089392,-0.516781147,5.647893522,-6.246766619,-0.716499146,-0.613399247,3.491955933,-0.750001646

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    Sagly is probably the Proto-Turkic base before they all spread around. For the "Balkan", is the Deliorman component you are using the Turkish ancestor removed from the Turk_Deliorman?
    qpAdm: Bulgarian_1.DG= 77 - Kimak.SG= 23, p= 0.36, se= 0.31.
    Y: Q-L330 > Q-YP771 > Q-BZ180 > Q-F16045* (F15008*) --> Baikal N, Altai MLBA, Aldy-Bel, Pazyryk, Hun.
    MT: K1a --> Iron Gates, Starcevo, Bulgaria N, Bulgaria CA, Bulgaria BA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaspias View Post
    Sagly is probably the Proto-Turkic base before they all spread around. For the "Balkan", is the Deliorman component you are using the Turkish ancestor removed from the Turk_Deliorman?
    Aye!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaspias View Post
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    Can you make a PCA with the coordinates, adding other relevant ancient and modern pops?

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    For comparison, here are two individuals from the Second Bulgarian Empire era, both excavated from Veliko Tarnovo, the empire's capital.


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    Target: Demirkazık_scaled
    Distance: 2.3137% / 0.02313692
    32.4 Bulgar
    32.4 Turkey_SoutheastByzantine
    17.0 Turkey_WestByzantine
    13.4 Turkey_Byzantine
    4.8 Turkey_Medieval

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    Average of 2 Bulgars ie. DA142 and I2525


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    I got a bit of sample BGR_Samovodene_MA, when put it among modern populations.


    Target: Dušan_scaled
    Distance: 1.9206% / 0.01920610
    37.4 Russian_Smolensk
    36.2 Greek_Macedonia
    10.4 Ukrainian_Sumy
    9.8 Sardinian
    4.2 Lithuanian_VZ
    1.2 BGR_Samovodene_MA
    0.6 Georgian_Megr
    0.2 Kosipe
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    Target: Dušan_scaled
    Distance: 1.7521% / 0.01752098
    60.4 Slavic: RUS_Sunghir_MA
    29.8 Roman: SRB_Svilos_Krusevlje
    9.8 Byzantine: TUR_Marmara_Ilipinar_Byz2

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    Facial reconstruction of a Volga Bulgar

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