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    Yes, but of some serious southern heritage, I am a representative of the suppressed cultural variety of China: theistic, innovative, anticommie, very vocal too. In fact we had a considerable site since 2008 untill 2019 many people like me gathered there and talked sheet of CCP and karlmarx like saying Hello to each other everyday and discussed about magic and mysteries and other unusual topics from anywhere. For example, my weird ocean complex and anti-nuclear sentiment developed from that site: once a strange guy told me, that nuclear reaction produces a certain unknown energy field and that the nuclear power is in fact the greatest factor of the manmade climatic change; also from there I learned that ancient chinese considered sea lives as heavenly creatures I was inspired untill today. I collected many of of their ideas but failed to remember their net IDs. Tears.

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    I'm not taking anyone seriously who believes in James Lindsay's clownish ramblings about how all his enemies are "Hegelians" and "Gnostics" and how these two groups are the root of all evil. However, some of his older videos look worth the watch for rhetorical purposes. Although others look clownish. WWII and honestly most things in recent history have so many aspects that you can come up with any sensationalist theory and find scraps of evidence to support it, at least enough to write a book about it.
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    Hitler's Table Talks are a controversial primary source that almost ALL historians of Hitler and National Socialism have used. Some historians have argued that this primary source must be thrown out, and the arguments they resort to are a direct criticism of history, exposing that all of history is a lie. And in today's video, we're going to dive into the debate, and see if history is fundamentally broken or not.

    DEAR YOUTUBE CENSORS: I'm NOT a National Socialist, or a Fascist, or anything like that. This video is discussing events or concepts that are academic, educational and historical in nature. This video is for informational purposes and was created so we may better understand the past and learn from the mistakes others have made. The video discusses history theory, epistemology (the study of knowledge), and despite what the title might suggest, I ultimately seek to defend history from those that deny it.

    📚 BIBLIOGRAPHY / SOURCES 📚

    Carrier, R. “”Hitler’s Table Talk”: Troubling Finds.” German Studies Review Vol. 26, No. 3 (Oct., 2003), pp. 561-576 (16 pages).
    Evans, R. “In Defence of History.” Granta Books, Kindle.
    Evans, R. "Telling Lies About Hitler: The Holocaust, History and the David Irving Trial." Verso, 2002.
    Evans, R. “The Coming of the Third Reich.” Penguin Books, Kindle 2004.
    Kershaw, I. “Hitler: 1889-1936 Hubris.” Allen Lane, 1998.
    Kershaw, I. “Hitler: 1936-1945 Nemesis.” Penguin Books, 2001.
    Nilsson, M. (2016). "Hugh Trevor-Roper and the English Editions of Hitler’s Table Talk and Testament." Journal of contemporary history http://dx.doi.org/10.1177/00220094156...
    Zitelmann, R. "Hitler: The Policies of Seduction." London House, 1999.
    Zitelmann, R. "Hitler's National Socialism." Management Books 2022.

    Full list of all my sources https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hexachordia View Post
    People are tended to mystify what they adore. Firstly Hitler to a certain extent is adorable for his charisma and warriorship. But these two major traits of charm are not absent in ancient history of Hellenic civilizations, like the Hero king Theseus, a conqueror and ravisher of native women and elves; Napoleon was also such a type of charisma and adored by Hitler himself. In contrary there are other types of leaders which were representatives of terror and objectification of the self like Stalin, Churchill, Roosevelt, you can say the different types of leadership represent different traditions of human ideology: personal charisma--courage and entrepreneurship; terror--dictatorship and servitude. Of course such division is not new and also has religious roots as well, Christianity has given rise to individual justification against social norms, Nazism surely has christian influence, not many pagan masters are charming, like filthy hindu brahmins, bald tibetan monks, senile and wrinkled ugly taoist gurus.

    Man`s beauty--charisma, starting from Horus, to Theseus, finally to Jesus Christ, and then to Napoleon and Hitler. A kind of messianic vibe and charm engulfing the man, nothing more to be analyze then just look at him and adore him, like many rockstars today. Just listen to him and follow and that is the core of the ideology. Nazism has such a man at its core, and his close pal Himmler somehow also shared such vibes and the duo makes a powerful rhetorique of the subversive personalities. To be honest our world today needs such people everywhere, not just in politics, also in music, arts, literature, social institutions, also in your own consciousness. Don`t let Stalin or Mao sit in your world tighly, crush, shake, subverse them with your nazis in your mind. We need nazis everywhere, the army of Messiahs.
    He was molesting his neice

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