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    Typical tarantella from my Village of origin (Apulia, South Italy)
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    Its ancient origins derive from the strong Greek influence that Southern Italy underwent in the archaic age and which led to a period of great splendor and civilization. The coasts of Magna Graecia soon became the beating heart of the Dionysian rites (characterised by inebriation, exaltation and fury), and the theoretical development that followed was great. In fact, the Pythagoreans considered these places "an elective homeland", where they could conduct the study of harmony and experience "catharsis" (liberation of the soul) through singing, dancing and the study of music.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eupator View Post
    According to Reich dataset, I am much closer to Myceneans compared to the average 'mainlander' Greek, cognitively damaged trash.

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    fst(prefix, pop1 = "Greece_BA_Mycenaean", pop2 = c("eptr", "Greek"))
    ℹ Reading allele frequencies from packedancestrymap files...
    ℹ eptrfamilyHO.geno has 14317 samples and 597573 SNPs
    ℹ Calculating allele frequencies from 24 samples in 3 populations
    ℹ Expected size of allele frequency data: 81 MB
    597k SNPs read...
    ✔ 597573 SNPs read in total
    ! 169155 SNPs remain after filtering. 156076 are polymorphic.
    ℹ Allele frequency matrix for 169155 SNPs and 3 populations is 16 MB
    ℹ Computing pairwise f2 for all SNPs and population pairs requires 97 MB RAM without splitting
    ℹ Computing without splitting since 97 < 8000 (maxmem)...
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    # A tibble: 2 × 4
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    1 Greece_BA_Mycenaean eptr 0.00227 0.00125
    2 Greece_BA_Mycenaean Greek 0.00792 0.00136
    Now, seethe more slavo-bulgarian 10th century settler with zero ethnography to call your own.

    Post your haplogroup if you dare, but you won't, typical 'mainlander' chicken-shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catgeorge View Post
    There is no reality that Georgian/Pontian Music is classified as "Greek".
    Pontic Greek music has similarities to Cretan,Thracian and also some of the Islands music.

    Whats your problem with Pontic Greek music in the Caucasus only Laz people have music and instruments like Pontians
    other music styles of the Caucasus are completly different.
    Caucasus has many different styles of music just as Greece has so what is the real Caucasian or the real Greek music and is there
    only one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tauromachos View Post
    Pontic Greek music has similarities to Cretan,Thracian and also some of the Islands music.

    Whats your problem with Pontic Greek music in the Caucasus only Laz people have music and instruments like Pontians
    other music styles of the Caucasus are completly different.
    Caucasus has many different styles of music just as Greece has so what is the real Caucasian or the real Greek music and is there
    only one?
    I dont have any problem with it - sounds good but its not Greek.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimitri159 View Post
    Was he playing pop music like the example you provided, or was he playing folk music?

    This is folk music from the Peloponnese region:


    It sounds a lot more Oriental, not “Hungarian”.
    It sounds really good! It does have an Eastern Mediterranean feel to it, but I do feel like it shares some similarities with Iberian music (vocals at 2:43):



    One day I was showing the song above song to a friend of mine, and he said the vocals sounded like arab music, I disagree though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by catgeorge View Post
    I dont have any problem with it - sounds good but its not Greek.
    Its certainly Greek at least as much as your Sarakatsan or Epirote music is Greek.

    Pontians preserved the Pyrrhichios dance which didn't survive in Mainland Greece so what do you want Idiot!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrrhichios
    The Pyrrhichios or Pyrrhike dance ("Pyrrhic dance"; Ancient Greek: πυρρίχιος or πυρρίχη,but often misspelled as πυρρίχειος or πυρήχειος) was the best known war dance of the Greeks. It was probably of Dorian origin and practiced at first solely as a training for war. According to ancient sources, it was a weapon dance.
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    Let's not push the Greeks out of Europe with such questions.
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