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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    Too northern for what? They are real Early Medieval Wielkopolans. That's how Wielkopolans looked like in the Early Middle Ages.

    Maybe Wielkopolans were pulled south by Southern German settlers during the Ostsiedlung? Or by what else in your opinion?
    I mean Early Medieval Slavs are quite northern in comparison to modern Poles, Ukrainians and Russians. Slavs that do not have much Baltic input can't be modelled with these medieval samples and require something from the south and I have no idea why.

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    Where do these coords put you on the North Europe PCA? Is the difference that big?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ugochaves View Post
    You should pay attention to the central Russians. This is the east of Europe and almost 0% of Finno-Ugrians. Who are they?
    Russians from Smolensk are identical to Belarussians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katarzyna View Post
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    Anyone also experienced huge difference between real and simulated ?
    Target: rothaer_scaled
    Distance: 1.0091% / 0.01009085

    39.8 (Balto-)Slavic
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriekman View Post
    I mean Early Medieval Slavs are quite northern in comparison to modern Poles, Ukrainians and Russians.

    ANE admixture pulls Russians north on a PCA despite lower WHG admixture than Baltic populations.







    You can see below that WHG is almost halfway between ANE and ENF in terms of northern shift.

    And the distance to Han Chinese is equal between ANE and ENF.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Russki View Post
    ANE admixture pulls Russians north on a PCA despite lower WHG admixture than Baltic populations.
    Maybe I am stupid but I don't quite understand why you are writing about these ancient ancestral components. My message was about the changes that happened from medieval to modern times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    Russians from Smolensk are identical to Belarussians.
    They are close, as well as all western central and southern Russians. This is one population of people.



    All Russians, Belarusians and eastern Ukrainians are located between Poles and Balts. Russians from Smolensk are closer to southern Russians than to Belarusians and other Eastern Slavs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russki View Post
    ANE admixture pulls Russians north on a PCA despite lower WHG admixture than Baltic populations.







    You can see below that WHG is almost halfway between ANE and ENF in terms of northern shift.

    And the distance to Han Chinese is equal between ANE and ENF.


    There is some kind of border for the Russians when they begin to be drawn north to ANE. Apparently, there was a substrate of the Finno-Ugric Merya people in this place.
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