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    I mean, that's kind of a dumb question, like "Who was the first arab?" "Where did the arabs come from as a people?" like, c'mon! (btw, I said arabs, not muslims)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demirkazık View Post
    They branched off from Canaanites and Phoenicians, they are originally from South Levant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Annihilus View Post
    I don't mean place but from a person, group and when did this happen?
    Internationalists: Traditionally, Jews were a people without a homeland—the State of Israel not existing until 1948. Ever since the Roman conquest of Jerusalem in 70 AD, Jews were compelled to wander to neighboring lands and to make their way as best as possible.

    They were essentially foreigners everywhere, even where they had settled for centuries. In a sense, they were the first true internationalists. And it worked to their benefit. As strangers, they were often exempt from the social and cultural norms of the host population. They were relatively free to exploit the native people. And for the reasons stated above, they had little reason not to. Once again, the relatively amoral, more-clever Jews were able to take advantage of a relatively innocent and naïve populace.

    Yes, the natives often ‘willingly’ cooperate with the Jews and their globalist business activities; but without an understanding of the Jewish Question, they are in a poor position to assess the relative merits of doing so. When someone in need of money, for example, ‘willingly’ signs up for a complex interest-bearing loan with plenty of hazardous fine print, and then proceeds to lose whatever they posted for collateral, they are right to feel deceived. Or when locals ‘willingly’ shop at a Jewish business, to their own benefit, but thereby enrich the Jewish owners, and don’t realize the pernicious ends to which that wealth will be used. In the worst cases it may be positively harmful— rather like a heroin dealer passing out free samples, and then saying,

    “Well, they willingly took it, didn’t they?” When local people are tricked, duped, or otherwise “enabled in their vices” (to paraphrase Wilhelm Marr), they cannot truly be blamed. But we can be sure that, when it does happen, Jews are there to profit handsomely.

    Internationalism, or globalism, has thus historically been hugely to their benefit—both in a positive sense, through financial profits, and in a negative sense, in which they used the flow of people to diversify and dilute the strongly ethnic nation-states. Furthermore, international flow of capital allows one to exert control globally. It is more efficient, and much cleaner, than military coercion. Jews thus are notable proponents of global markets, global currency exchanges, ‘free’ trade, and generally anything that enlarges and binds multiple economies.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Annihilus View Post
    I don't mean place but from a person, group and when did this happen?
    But why were the Jews generally opposed to Germany? Today, on the basis of a huge number of facts, this is clear enough. They used the age-old tactics of the hyenas: When the fighters exhausted themselves, they moved in. Then the harvest! In war and revolutions, Judah simply attains the unattainable. Hundreds of thousands of lice-ridden Orientals become modern ‘Europeans’! Turbulent times bring about miracles. Before 1914, for example, in Bavaria, how long would a Galician Jew have lasted as prime minister?! Or in Russia, an anarchist out of the New York ghetto, Bronstein (Trotsky), as a dictator? ! A few wars and revolutions have sufficed to make the Jewish race the possessor of red gold and therewith masters of the world.--Adolf Hitler

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    The vast majority of Jews today are not descended primarily from Hebrews, but mostly from Roman era converts.
    It is not nearly as mysterious as the (ridiculous) superstitious Jew-hating racists on here seem to imply:

    https://www.amazon.com/Maternal-Gene...pe=all_reviews

    Dr. Brook also, in the Introduction, explains the paternal lineages, but that is not the main topic as the paternal lineages are mostly Israelite, and, thus, less complex, than the maternal lineages which brought in Italian(Roman), Greek, German, Slavic, Chinese etc women into the Ashkenazi genome. Highly recommend the book to anyone interested in Jewish ethnogenesis

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    Quote Originally Posted by Targum View Post
    It is not nearly as mysterious as the (ridiculous) superstitious Jew-hating racists on here seem to imply:

    https://www.amazon.com/Maternal-Gene...pe=all_reviews

    Dr. Brook also, in the Introduction, explains the paternal lineages, but that is not the main topic as the paternal lineages are mostly Israelite, and, thus, less complex, than the maternal lineages which brought in Italian(Roman), Greek, German, Slavic, Chinese etc women into the Ashkenazi genome. Highly recommend the book to anyone interested in Jewish ethnogenesis
    Is R-L23 a Canaanite, Israelite paternal lineage?

    Jews are an ethno-religious grouping and at the end of the day, genetically speaking, as if it is news to anyone who knows a thing or two about anthro stuff, they are very diverse. You have Cochin Jews, Ethiopian Jews, Yemenite Jews, Ashkenazi/Sephardic Jews etc and it is Judaism that unites these people more than genetics

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesoman View Post
    Is R-L23 a Canaanite, Israelite paternal lineage?

    Jews are an ethno-religious grouping and at the end of the day, genetically speaking, as if it is news to anyone who knows a thing or two about anthro stuff, they are very diverse. You have Cochin Jews, Ethiopian Jews, Yemenite Jews, Ashkenazi/Sephardic Jews etc and it is Judaism that unites these people more than genetics
    Well, yeah, but still, it can't be said that Jews have nothing to do with each other. I did seen Ashkenazi Jews that can even pass as my family members. I also seen some of them that look alien to me (too European for me). Chinese and Ethiopian Jews are their own story though

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    Biblically jews (judes) come from Judah son of Jacob (Israel). The rest are the Lost Tribes of Israel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Annihilus View Post
    I don't mean place but from a person, group and when did this happen?
    Abraham was a Semite who had a son Isaac. Isaac had a son called Jacob. Jacob had been given another name by God, "Israel". Jacob (Israel) had 12 sons, who became the 12 tribes of Israel.

    One of the 12 sons was Judah. His descendants, along with his brother Benjamin, lived together, separate from the other 10 tribes (they had separate kingdoms). The descendants of Judah and Benjamin were later called "Jews" -- especially after they were taken captive by the Babylonians. The Jews lived in Babylonian captivity for a while, where they developed a distinct "Jewish" culture, and that's also when they developed the Talmud. Hence Talmudic Judaism had taken in a lot of Babylonian mysticism, quite different from their Israel ancestors with the other 10 tribes.

    That's, in short, the origin story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loki View Post
    Abraham was a Semite who had a son Isaac. Isaac had a son called Jacob. Jacob had been given another name by God, "Israel". Jacob (Israel) had 12 sons, who became the 12 tribes of Israel.

    One of the 12 sons was Judah. His descendants, along with his brother Benjamin, lived together, separate from the other 10 tribes (they had separate kingdoms). The descendants of Judah and Benjamin were later called "Jews" -- especially after they were taken captive by the Babylonians. The Jews lived in Babylonian captivity for a while, where they developed a distinct "Jewish" culture, and that's also when they developed the Talmud. Hence Talmudic Judaism had taken in a lot of Babylonian mysticism, quite different from their Israel ancestors with the other 10 tribes.

    That's, in short, the origin story.
    But that is not the real story is it? For that th be true they would all have to have the same Y. The maternal thing with Jews is only recent, it was paternal before.

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