In your opinion, are the following groups "White" and please state your reasons?

[Melkiirs]

I am sorry but what is the point of your big tent philosophy if you do not intend to to try to put them in a functional nation state ? It it all seems like pointless wankery.

Americans have been historically more accepting of MENAs than South Asians. This may be because the region was perceived as somewhat of a periphery to Europe rather than completely different. Compare the Near East with the Far East. I don't know if you would consider the United States as a functional nation state or not.

Caucasian in the United States demography originally meant European only until 1909 when Lebanese Christian George Shishim won his case with Department of Justice to include Near-Eastern people as White/Caucasian. One argument appealed to the public desire for Jesus to be classified as White.

https://www.arabamericanhistory.org/...-race-in-1909/

In 1923 Punjabi Brahmin Bhagat Singh Thind lost his federal case to have Indians counted as Caucasian despite anthropological evidence because the common American did not consider them Whites/Caucasian.

https://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/5076/

The inclusion of MENAs yet exclusion of South Asians in the term Caucasian in the US is more based on common European Americans identifying more with the former due to Christianity. Academic anthropology was not a major factor.

[Sheppey]

My point is that the British, French, Germans and Scandinavians are all equally White.

Which of these groups are 'white' during these historical states of affairs ?

[drb234]

Except there has never been a European nation called Brit-Frog-Kraut-Scandicuck land so what are you even talking about ? You are spewing utter poppycock.

The dream was almost achieved... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Stamford_Bridge
If only things had gone differently in 1066.

[Hulu]

Except there has never been a European nation called Brit-Frog-Kraut-Scandicuck land so what are you even talking about ? You are spewing utter poppycock.

Just Tooting owd-ing as usual. If I can't be white neither can southern euros...

[RN97]

I do not really believe in the concept of white, but I´d say that azkhenazi jews are def. white because they are from europe and have long roots there, and they look European. Georgians and Chechens have a strong case since most of them look European, while the other groups mostly do not.

[Tooting Carmen]

Just Tooting owd-ing as usual. If I can't be white neither can southern euros...

West Asians are not the same as Southern Europeans, which is precisely why I am asking.

[Sheppey]

I do not really believe in the concept of white, but I´d say that azkhenazi jews are def. white because they are from europe and have long roots there, and they look European. Georgians and Chechens have a strong case since most of them look European, while the other groups mostly do not.

Since Slavics and Irish people etc... are 'white' then I am not a 'white person' rather I am a Pendragon (Pen Draco Insularis the II) overlord.

[Hulu]

West Asians are not the same as Southern Europeans, which is precisely why I am asking.

But you are grouping nw and scandinavians as the etalon of white

[Tooting Carmen]

But you are grouping nw and scandinavians as the etalon of white

I was only responding to Sheppey's claim that the English are the epitome of White, and should we regard the French, Germans or Scandinavians as the epitome of White instead?

[placebo]

All of them are white except Turanid Turks. White has been synonymous with Caucasoid since Blumenbach's classification schema in the late 18th century.

you said "you can pass as white in us" (maybe not you, not sure maybe i confuse with another member but as far as i remember, you) anyway, i look more turanid influenced than most turks. so i guess you talking about very very minority who look almost central asian.