Prizren, Kosovo described as 'Capital of Albania' by the Austrians in 1689.

[C0de]

This is from Lazaro Soranzo in the 1500's:

Lazaro Soranzo, in the late sixteenth century, writing of 'Albanians, who live as Catholics, and observing that Prizren was inhabited ' more by Albanians than by Serbs'

Taken from Rebels, Believers, Survivors - Study in the history of the Albanians


Registers from the 1500's also cover Kosova the most and shows good chunk of it was inhabited by Albanians, Islamized, Catholic and even Orthodox.

[Your Old Comrade]

Show your sources. You claimed that a Dutch historian had said something about it in the 1970s in a different thread. What's his name, and what was the publication?

[Victor]

We have a joke about "British scientists" and "Armenian radio" in Russia, so it's probably something similar.

[C0de]

The Prizren-Has region in Kosovo was inhabited by an Albanian population even in the 1200-1400. These are some of the villages from
the Ottoman registers of 1452 , I have bolded the typical Albanian names (Take into consideration Albanians bore Slavic and Christian names too)

Village Gorožup (Gorozhup): Martin, Progon, Đon (Gjon), Lazar, Đon (Gjon), Čubran (?), Đin (Gjin), Nikola, Đin (Gjin), Staniša, Đin (Gjin), Đerđi (Gjergj), Dimitri, Đerđi (Gjergj), Dimitri, Đerđi (Gjergj), Đin (Gjin), Pavli, Đin (Gjin), Marćen (?), Đon (Gjon), Andreja, Vlk, Nikola, Tanuš (Tanush), Bazrek (possibly a misspelling of Mazrek), Pavli, Tanuš (Tanush), Đon (Gjon), Dimitri, Pavli, D'minko, Pavli, D'minko, Nikola, Đerđi (Gjergj), Hrebeljan, Bardo (Bardhë), Stepan


Village Kojushe: Đerđi (Gjergj), Đon (Gjon), Đerđi (Gjergj), Andreja, Đerđi (Gjergj), Pavli, Tanuš (Tanush), Andreja, Pavli, Nikola, Đerđi (Gjergj), Tanuš (Tanush), Đin (Gjin), Nikola, Petri, Đin (Gjin), Đon (Gjon)



(Village Zym): Nikola, Niko, Đerđi (Gjergj), Dimitri, Pavli, Zgur (a corruption of Skur(r)a), Lik (Lika), Nikola, Niko, Bogoslav


This one is an Albanian toponym 'Zhur' : Village Žur (Zhur): Krajslav, Brat, Olivera, Stojan, Badra (misspelling of Barda), Raško, Nekša (possibly a misspelling of Meksha), Đin (Gjin), Tanuš (Tanush), Pavli, Dimitri, Kalina (?), Jugan (?), Barda (Bardhë), Marko, Bogdan, Novak, Ivan, Božić


Village Mazrek: Strahinja, Đon (Gjon), Đerđi (Gjergj), Mazrak, Bardo (Bardhë), Progon, Sunbula (?), Đon (Gjon), Stepan, Tudor, Pavli, Mazrek, Đon (Gjon), Lješ (Llesh)




Certainly not just the 17th century





And these are literally just a few villages

[Far_away]

We have a joke about "British scientists" and "Armenian radio" in Russia, so it's probably something similar.

Brother, in ottoman census in 1455 shows all and that is what eats them. They are not some ancient "Dardanians" they are people who migrate from north Albania on Kosovo. They became muslim and together with Turks they did genocide on Serbs.

[C0de]

Same thing for the Gjakova-Decan area in 1400-1500:

''During the Ottoman occupation of the Balkans, Junik and the Municipality of Junik were part of the Nahiya of Altun-ili during the 15th century. In a 1485 defter of the region, Junik was mentioned with the name Lunik. In the 15th century, around half of Junik's population had typical Albanian anthroponomy. During the early period of Ottoman occupation, Gjakova and the Gjakova Municipality were part of the Nahiya of Altun-ili. Most of the villages in the Nahiya of Altun-ili were dominated by inhabitants with Albanian anthroponomy, which indicates that during the 15th century (as supported by Ottoman defters), the lands between Junik and Gjakova were inhabited by a dominant ethnic Albanian majority.[1]''

[C0de]

Opoja:


''Ottoman cadastral records indicate that the Opoja region was inhabited by a dominant Albanian majority of mixed Muslim, Orthodox and Catholic faith during the 15th-16th centuries due to the anthroponomy present; additionally, most of the region was islamised by 1571. In the second half of the 15th century, the Ottoman defters of 1571 and 1591 indicated that Opoja had become a territorial administrative division with a dominant Timar system. 18 timars were recorded in the 23 villages of Opoja in 1571, and 13 timars in 1591. At the end of the 16th century, in the Nahiya of Opoja, of the 27 newly-Islamised households spread across 9 villages, 24 had Albanian last names and only 3 had Slavic last names. Of the 37 Christian households spread across 8 villages, 36 had Albanian or Albanian-Slav anthroponomy whereas only 1 had Slavic anthroponomy. Of the 23 field owners of the Nahiya, 18 had Albanian names and 5 had Slavic names.[14]''




All these Ottoman registers show an Albanian majority in the 1400's-1500's in many of these areas LOL!

[C0de]

Show your sources. You claimed that a Dutch historian had said something about it in the 1970s in a different thread. What's his name, and what was the publication?

I have posted my sources here plenty of times, and from various books. I don't always post them over and over again. And people here have posted the same posts and even posted the sources. The source in the OP is from Austrian military archives that have been quoted by countless historians but you can also find it here from this book: Rebels, Believers, Survivors - Malcolm and from here:

[Extract from Annotationes und Reflexiones der gloriosen kayserlichen Waffen im Jahr 1689. in: Austrian State Archives (Österreichisches Staatsarchiv), Military Archives (Kriegsarchiv), Vienna, AFA, Carton 195, 1689-13-1, fol. 32r-49r. Translated from the German by Robert Elsie.]

Robert Elsie wrote on this one too and translated it from German. And many more.

Maybe you are confusing the time frames a bit here , the Dutch historian argued for a much earlier period when the Slavs were expanding, his name I believe was van Wijk , he has also been quoted from others:

The modern dialect of Serbo-Croat which borders Macedonian and Bulgarian territory, the 'Timok-Prizren' dialect, does have some transitional features; but research has shown that it picked them up only after the medieval expansion of the Serbian state into Kosovo and the Morava valley, which brought its speakers into closer contact with Bulgarian (ibid., pp. 62, 71).

https://macedonia.kroraina.com/en/nm/kosovo.html#18.



Not sure why you are doubting my claims. They are nothing but historical facts backed up by evidence.

[C0de]

You can also find the entire text here http://www.albanianhistory.net/1689_Kosovo-Turkish-War/ , an Albanian website that uploads papers about Albanians, nothing has been edited, it's translated by Robert Elsie from Austrian archives. You can go and look in other sources you'll find the exact same thing if you doubt it.

[C0de]

Here some more:

Source: Rebels, Believers, Survivors: Studies in the History of Albanians. , starting from page 128

One early account states that in Prishtina 5,000 Arnauts, having thrown off the Turks and many leaders of the surrounding places ... swore fealty to the Emperor.



Count Veterani, the commander of the Austrian campaign in this part of the Balkans in 1690, wrote in his memoirs of 20,000 Arnauts reduced to loyal obedience to the Emperor Piccolomini



An anonymous history of the war, written in Italian (and surviving in manuscript in two forms: the full Italian text in the French Foreign Ministry archives, and an extract in German translation, entitled 'Annotationes und Reflexiones, in the Kriegsarchiv in Vienna), refers to more than 20,000 Rascians or Albanians. Some other early texts by writers who apparently had acces to original dispatches and documents specify Albanians: for example Franz Wagner, in his history of the region of Leopold I, used the words 'Arnautae' and 'Epirotae' - the latter being a term normally used to distinguish the Albanian language (and its speakers) from the Slav, ''Illyrian'', one.



And one of Piccolominis own officers, Colonel von Strasser, reported to Ludwig von Baden that Piccolomini had gone to Prizren in order to treat with 'The Albanians, Arnauts, and others (mit den Albanesernen, Arnauten und anderen')



Among the papers of Ludwig von Baden in Karlsruhe, there is a copy of an intercepted letter, in French, written by a secretary of the English Embassy in Istanbul on 19 January 1690: it reports that the 'Germans' in Kosovo have made contact with 20,000 Albanians who have turned their weapons against the Turks.



Most of this evidence points then towards the conclusion that the bulk of the people who rallied to Piccolomini in Prizren - both the 5,000 who came to the town to greet him, and the others who made up the total of 20,000 - were, by our modern criteria, Albanian