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    Quote Originally Posted by Manuel View Post
    And let's get things clear here: I am not the one questioning Roman or Italian contributions. So you don't need to sell me the Pantheon. It's you who questions Greek contributions.
    You are very white Greek nationalist, Manolo. I like you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo View Post
    You are very white Greek nationalist, Manolo. I like you
    If I was a Greek white nationalist, my dear old friend Cristiano, I'd talk down to Italians like he does with Greeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manuel View Post
    If I was a Greek white nationalist, my dear old friend Cristiano, I'd talk down to Italians like he does with Greeks.
    Not necessarily.

    I see on you a true patriot, defending the your. I appreciate this

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    Quote Originally Posted by renaissance12 View Post
    Maybe.. give me more details please..


    Roman nobles and patricians admired Greece and Greek culture. I only know Roman emperors who worshiped Greek culture while I don't know Roman emperors who worshiped other cultures of conquered peoples.
    Ancient Roman Horace wrote: Graecia capta ferum victōrem cepit / Captive Greece conquered her savage victor.


    Everyone knows that the ancient Romans weren't so interested in philosophy..

    They were interested in the army in conquest and to pay the high cost of the army they needed new conquests and many taxes and an excellent public administration and a legal system efficient and a great net of roads..
    I am also a Cretan. I do not accept Italians as superior to Greeks. I admit however the Romans and Italians had more civilizational contributions and had a superior military.

    I also do not accept the una faccia una razza saying, we are very different (yet somewhat similar ).
    Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voskos View Post
    I am also a Cretan. I do not accept Italians as superior to Greeks. I admit however the Romans and Italians had more civilizational contributions and had a superior military.

    I also do not accept the una faccia una razza saying, we are very different (yet somewhat similar ).
    Cheers.
    Never said that Greeks are inferior....


    Are you greek ?

    Even if in the last 1500 years Greece has not made great contributions to culture (science, art, etc.) the glorious Greek past is more than enough. The Greeks (together with the Romans) created the foundations of European culture 2500 years ago and laid the foundations of logical reasoning which is very important in modern science.

    Instead we are still waiting for something from the Nordic Baltic countries .. much admired by the savages of the USA of South America, India, Africa and Asia in general, just because some Nordic hen publishes photos of blonde girls with miniskirts who dance like geese ...

    Couldn't this Finnish girl post pictures of some monuments some buildings some paintings or some pics of scientist ( no jews scientist please ) .


    .. Every time she posts pictures of insipid Scandinavian blonde girls.

    Obviously the sex-hungry of the third world lose their heads ..

    But Apricity is not a dating site ... or is it?

    Nokia ? Will disapear in the next 10 years. like SAAB and Volvo ( that is chinese )..

    Anyway.. it is the future of all Europe that is not "great"...

    It Has no future at all.. In India they can make the same items at 1/3 of NOKIA price and cost..

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    Quote Originally Posted by renaissance12 View Post
    Even if in the last 1500 years Greece has not made great contributions to culture (science, art, etc.)

    This is a very western-centric approach. Greece with the exception of the past 200 hundred years always looked to the East in its development/expansion.

    I understand that nothing makes western historians seethe as much as the byzaboos, but saying there's no contributions to art or science or literature in the medieval, that's a very close-minded take from someone who professes to be a historian.

    Hellenism reached its peak under the guidance of Christian Orthodoxy and still struggles to do so, to an extent, under the boot of the globo-homo tyranny of the west.

    Western civ also reached its growth peak ages ago, its current demographic collapse and economic/geopolitical implosion (which modern Greece is also part of due to its status as a western colony), there's barely two decades left (if that) to the "West" and its luciferian/enlightenment ideas and global tyranny. Once Russia wins in the uktraine (hopefully) and the boomers die off, it's game over.

    It's a sad state of affairs (for modern Greece) to be attached to such a tyrannical and satanic structure such as the of the 'western world'.

    And modern Italians have nothing to do with modern Greeks either, that ship has sailed ages ago, 1204 A.D. motherfucker, do you think we have forgotten? Do you think we have forgiven?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eupator View Post
    This is a very western-centric approach. Greece with the exception of the past 200 hundred years always looked to the East in its development/expansion.

    I understand that nothing makes western historians seethe as much as the byzaboos, but saying there's no contributions to art or science or literature in the medieval, that's a very close-minded take from someone who professes to be a historian.

    Hellenism reached its peak under the guidance of Christian Orthodoxy and still struggles to do so, to an extent, under the boot of the globo-homo tyranny of the west.

    Western civ also reached its growth peak ages ago, its current demographic collapse and economic/geopolitical implosion (which modern Greece is also part of due to its status as a western colony), there's barely two decades left (if that) to the "West" and its luciferian/enlightenment ideas and global tyranny. Once Russia wins in the uktraine (hopefully) and the boomers die off, it's game over.

    It's a sad state of affairs (for modern Greece) to be attached to such a tyrannical and satanic structure such as the of the 'western world'.

    And modern Italians have nothing to do with modern Greeks either, that ship has sailed ages ago, 1204 A.D. motherfucker, do you think we have forgotten? Do you think we have forgiven?

    My statement : " Even if in the last 1500 years Greece has not made great contributions to culture (science, art, etc.)"

    and what you understood

    .."I understand that nothing makes western historians seethe as much as the byzaboos, [B]but saying there's no contributions to art or science or literature in the medieval, that's a very close-minded take from someone who professes to be a historian".....


    Great contribution doesn't mean NO CONTRIBUTION...

    You Greeks are and always will be our unprotected little cousins...
    ....You're lucky that after 2500 years we still love you a little.... even if many of you don't deserve our love.


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    @ Dušan



    The demographic data you posted for Lviv for the years before WW2 (Lwów at the time), more specifically the supposed ethnic composition of the city, has no basis in any actual population census (neither the Austrian ones nor a Polish ones) and apparently comes from some nationalistic ukrainian site (quote on wikipedia). Lwów (Lviv) was a "capital" of the Polish Greek Catholics, and in no census did all of them identify as the Ukrainians.
    For comparison in the 1931 Polish census, the Ukrainian language was declared as native by the 7.7% of the inhabitants of the city (24 245 people out of the total population of 312 231). In addition 3.5% declared Ruthenian their native language.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ugochaves View Post
    Italians are good architects and scientists, but bad cowardly warriors. By the way, I don't like Italian chic in architecture. I like the Slavic/Scandinavian simplicity of the design. Therefore, there is Swedish furniture from Ikea in my apartment.
    Slavic minimalism? Is it a joke? What are you talking about bro?
    I know about Scandinavian minimalism, Wabi Sabi in Japan, Mediterranean minimalist interior design (which I love so much), but Russian minimalism, are you kiddin us? Modern Italian design is hundred times more sophisticated than anything in Russia. Dude, I know what Russia looks like. Average house of rich Russian looks like this, and this is not baroque from 17-th century, rather a house from 2000s built with cheap materials.


    Scandinavia and Russia are two different worlds. Scandinavians really live minimalist way, taking care of nature, for Russians minimalism is just a trend seen in Ikea or Italian interior design magazines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by user_ View Post
    Slavic minimalism? Is it a joke? What are you talking about bro?
    I know about Scandinavian minimalism, Wabi Sabi in Japan, Mediterranean minimalist interior design (which I love so much), but Russian minimalism, are you kiddin us? Modern Italian design is hundred times more sophisticated than anything in Russia. Dude, I know what Russia looks like. Average house of rich Russian looks like this, and this is not baroque from 17-th century, rather a house from 2000s built with cheap materials.


    Scandinavia and Russia are two different worlds. Scandinavians really live minimalist way, taking care of nature, for Russians minimalism is just a trend seen in Ikea or Italian interior design magazines.
    The house in your pic is Palladian... not baroque..

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