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    Quote Originally Posted by Odelia View Post
    It's dumb! It should be changed to simply European or White-appearance. Slapping "Caucasian" on a fucking Icelandic criminal is as ridiculous as calling an East Timorese suspect "Japonic". Caucasian is a fucking small region in west asia or southeastern europe -- I'd say it's more west asian tbh. Why should it cover all europeans? It's arbitrary and it doesn't make sense and it's disrespectful to actual caucasians that have their name appropriated for others! Guess what...prehistoric Caucasoid skulls have also been found in what is now Israel. So by that logic, modern day whites can also be called Levantines or Syrians?

    Tl dr; Caucasian = caucasus peoples...END OF!
    Fucking this.

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    It's like "Mongoloid" for East Asians, Mongolia is not particularly where they all came from. Caucasus certainly has a religious justification too being supposedly Noah's Ark landing point, whilst Mount Ararat is actually on Turkey's border nowadays they likely wanted to validate the region as a mid point back then for all white populations. We are talking late 1700 when the term was first coined.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Machiavellian View Post
    It quite depends if your refers to south caucasus or the northern one.

    North Caucasus is europe, South Caucasus is West Asia,
    You know there's more than one definition of the boundaries of Europe? The one you refers to where the boundary goes through the main range of the Greater Caucasus is the most popular now, but there are and were many other definitions as well.

    not even (South) caucasians consider to be european themselves.
    Every Georgian I spoke to personally (means 2 in total) called himself European. Georgians are typically divided on the issue, as can be seen from many such discussions over the internet with some claiming they are Europeans, others not.
    A similar situation can also be found among the Armenians.

    Georgia is on the path of joining EU in the future.


    And Asia as commonly defined nowadays is a fake continent without anything to be based on - from a racial, religious, linguistical, cultural, political and geographical point of view.

    It covers areas lying on several continental plates, thus from a geological point of view these are several different continents.

    You have people like Arabs, Iranians, Indians, Vietnamese, Japanese, native Borneans, Eskimos etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Machiavellian View Post
    It quite depends if your refers to south caucasus or the northern one.

    North Caucasus is europe, South Caucasus is West Asia, not even (South) caucasians consider to be european themselves.
    North Caucasus is no different than the South, I don't get why are you so full of yourself. Do you think that Circassians, Karachay-Balkars, or even Dagestanis can be considered Europeans ?

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    There are only 3 races and you have to name it something though caucasian is wrong, caucasoid isn't. Same with Chinese being called mongoloid but not mongol.

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    Caucasians generally think about themselves as about Caucasians. Not as about Europeans. I'm not so sure about modern Georgians though, so let them say.

    Here're both Caucasians (Adyghe) and Europeans in the same video:
    Do what you should.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rumata View Post
    Caucasians generally think about themselves as about Caucasians. Not as about Europeans. I'm not so sure about modern Georgians though, so let them say.

    Here're both Caucasians (Adyghe) and Europeans in the same video:
    You mean culturally or genetically?
    I mean, I didn't understand which ones are Europeans and which ones are not, except for the guy with the "Islamic" beard who obviously looks like an Iranian.

    The rest for me would probably be hard to tell apart as to which ones are Europeans and which ones are not if they are not wearing their "ethnic" clothing.

    For example at 0:34 you have a woman in the red clothing whom I would consider European-looking even though she is also wearing "ethnic clothing" so she's probably Russian.
    At 3:09 you have a clearly Asian-looking woman who's probably Russian as well (my guess, I'm talking about nationality, not ancestry).
    And at 3:39 you have a woman that based on her look (clothing and wine that she holds) I would also consider European even though after thinking a little bit about it I would say she's probably Cherkess.

    So I guess it's typically more about the culture and the way one dress than genetics.
    Last edited by thatoneton; 10-16-2023 at 07:55 PM. Reason: grammar

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    Quote Originally Posted by thatoneton View Post
    You mean culturally or genetically?
    Culturally. I don't know genetics.

    I mean, I didn't understand which ones are Europeans and which ones are not, except for the guy with the "Islamic" beard who obviously looks like an Iranian.

    The rest for me would probably be hard to tell apart as to which ones are Europeans and which ones are not if they are not wearing their "ethnic" clothing.

    For example at 0:34 you have a woman in the red clothing whom I would consider European-looking even though she is also wearing "ethnic clothing" so she's probably Russia.
    At 3:09 you have a clearly Asian-looking woman who's probably Russian as well (my guess, I'm talking about nationality, nor ancestry).
    And at 3:39 you have a woman that based on her look (clothing and wine that she holds) I would also consider European even though after thinking a little bit about it she's probably Cherkess.

    So I guess it's typically more about the culture and the way one dress than genetics.
    The group of Europeans in the beginning mostly stand compactly under the roof. The woman in the red dress too. The woman at 3:09 looks to me rather Circassian with a possible Asian admixture. I can't tell the woman at 3:39. The woman at 0:34 looks Circassian.
    I don't see much of Russian admixture here. Maybe in very few people at most. Europeans look non-Russian too.
    Do what you should.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thatoneton View Post
    Every Georgian I spoke to personally (means 2 in total) called himself European.
    Mentally ill people can be found everywhere.


    Quote Originally Posted by thatoneton View Post
    Georgia is on the path of joining EU in the future.
    Turks also want to be europeans, and this doesnt changes what they really are, same for caucasian people.

    Quote Originally Posted by thatoneton View Post
    And Asia as commonly defined nowadays is a fake continent without anything to be based on - from a racial, religious, linguistical, cultural, political and geographical point of view.
    If everything east of urals and south of volgograd isnt Asia, then europe much less, for sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by thatoneton View Post
    It covers areas lying on several continental plates, thus from a geological point of view these are several different continents.
    There could be dozens of continents, but none of these would be Europe or similar to what we call Europe.

    Quote Originally Posted by thatoneton View Post
    You have people like Arabs, Iranians, Indians, Vietnamese, Japanese, native Borneans, Eskimos etc.
    Thats their problem, they dont have my interest
    Don't date short women if you don't want short kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demirkazık View Post
    I don't get why are you so full of yourself.
    So what?

    Quote Originally Posted by Demirkazık View Post
    IDo you think that Circassians, Karachay-Balkars, or even Dagestanis can be considered Europeans ?
    We should use genetics as a objective criteria, if they cluster with europeans, then they're europeans, otherwise no.
    Last edited by Abaddon; 10-16-2023 at 05:03 AM.
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