Ottoman Register 1571 - Western Kosovo

**Brave** · 09-02-2023, 12:40 AM

Like where the fuck did I say all the people who bore Slavic names were Albanian ?? You're the ones who claim all the people with Byzantine, Orthodox, Slavic, Christian names etc were Slavs when they weren't. Zhur in Prizren had Slavic names yet we know they were Albanians, it is even an Albanian toponym. Bernic in modern Serbia bore Slavic names but we know they were Albanian and plenty of others.

Can you explain to me why the town of Peja which had majority Slavic names in 1485, became Islamized from the natives converting to Islam in 1550's , later is also revealed these Islamized people were Albanians from 17th century sources ???

Can you explain to me why Ottoman registers show a native Albanian population even in South-East Serbia? https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...rbia&p=7731276

And why these Albanians bore Slavic names or Albanian-Slavic mixed names ?

**Brave** · 09-02-2023, 12:41 AM

Can you explain to me why the fuck Kosova and Dardanian territory is demographically dominated by Albanians if Serbs and Slavs are the original inhabitants ?

**Brave** · 09-02-2023, 01:02 AM

Such as the village of Botushe next to Junik

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Bo...txzd?entry=ttu

They bore Slavic names or Albanian-Slavic names but we know they were Albanians. In the 16th century they bore Albanian names like in the OP. A village doesn't have the same names for generations, buddy.

I find it especially funny how you people are so naive and think everyone in this territory that bore a Slavic name or Byzantine, Orthodox names or whatever was actually a Slav when we see Vlach and Albanians did the same thing as they were under these peoples rule. Also stop projecting 18th century movements and 19th-20th century nationalist conflicts into medieval people.

Northern Albania had mostly Christian and Albanian names, minority Slavic yet majority of new arrivals into Kosovo in 15th-16th century bore Slavic names so these people obviously weren't from Northern Albania.

**Brave** · 09-02-2023, 01:32 AM

And here is from a village from neighboring North-Eastern Albania in case you think these aren't Albanian names:

Spoiler!

From a village called 'Darda', (modern Dardhe)

So don't try that shit with me. Albanians in Kosovo didn't just have Albanian names anyway. People used all kinds of names in 15th century and you see a combo of Slavic and Albanian or Orthodox, Byzntine Christian and Albanian. It's only in 16th century that people used these type of names and some Slavic, Orthodox, Byzantine etc were still used. People became Islamized and also started using Muslim names. By your logic these people who used Muslim names were Arabs since you claim every person with a Slavic name must be a Slav ?

**Brave** · 09-02-2023, 01:39 AM

Because I know some gypsy here is gonna try and claim these aren't Albanian names. Just in case. Because this forum in general has an average IQ of 30.

**Brave** · 09-02-2023, 02:01 AM

Here is from another village called Kishaj from neighboring Albania,

Doda Biba
Ilija Deja
Gika Deja
Bac Doc
Nina Dada
Papa Mate
Papa Doda
Nina Doda
Kola Biba
Prend Doda
Koka Tola
Dida Gaci
Avejs Doda
Memi Nue
Dida Nika
Lika Biba
Prend Ilia
Peka Dida
Dida Baci
Doda Gjeci
Deja Koka
Doda Papa
Nina Koka
Doda Tita
Lika Doda
Jaka Koka
Dom Lleshi
Hysejn Mata
Hysejn Nue
Prend Doda
Gac Biba
Gjin Deja
Lika Doci
Dada
Tusha
Mata Petko
Nina Koka
Doda Nina
Prend Doda
Gac Biba
Gjin Deda
Dada Tusha
Mata Petko
Doda Nina
Biba Kola
Deja Gjini

etc.

Now tell me these aren't Albanian names

I can also show you 16th century that show Albanians in Macedonia still using Serbian names where it even says they are Albanian as their neighborhood is literally called 'Arnavud' which meant Albanian by your logic I guess these must of been Serbs since no Albanian could of possibly had a Serbian name huh ?

**Dušan** · 09-02-2023, 02:09 AM

Dont worry, your bright future is in West, far away from backward Balkans.

Look how are happy these diaspora Albanians in London.
So nice to see them satisfied far away.

Do not hesitate, ask your remaining relatives in Kosovo to achieve their bright future in the West.

**Far_away** · 09-02-2023, 04:18 AM

"For some years it (Albania) had been ruled by Skanderbeg, a most valiant man of Serbian origin" - Theodore Spandounes, Byzantine Historian.1538.
"Skanderbeg was a brave man of Serbian nature" - Gjon Muzaka, Albanian historian. 1515.

**Brave** · 09-02-2023, 04:45 AM

Just to show you an example here.

Let's use the village Mazrek in Kosovo as an example from 1452 they bore Albanian names like Gjon, Gjin, Mazrek, Bardo, Progon, Lesh and some Christian names:

Spoiler!

Then in 1571 they bore other type of Albanian names such as in the OP:

Spoiler!

Now this is a common thing that happened
since most villages didn't have the same names for generations and this happened in villages
and some towns that had Slavic names too so how
the fuck aren't those villages Albanians who just formerly bore
Slavic names ??? That's exactly what they are. In many cases people also switched
over to Muslim names. Any thing else you claim is just a bunch of pseudo science that has no evidence.
Especially claiming everybody with Slavic or Christian names as Serbs who were then supposedly replaced by newcomers

As for Decan-Gjakove-Prizren-Has area, Serbs certainly never
made the majority here. This territory in the 15th-16th
century was inhabited by an Albanian population which
is what these registers show. We got 16th century
for Opoje and Prizren area that show it was mostly inhabited
by Albanians too except for some pockets. The Peja region had more Slavic names compared to these areas
but that was also the seat of the Orthodox church. It was inhabited by Orthodox Albanians who then became Islamized.

**Brave** · 09-02-2023, 05:07 AM

You can type and spam in my thread all you want. This is not your land. You're some tribe who invaded these territories some time in the medieval period. There is no historical evidence for most of the shit you claim. There were no massive movements from what is today Albania in the 15th and 16th century as proven through all these Ottoman registers which is why almost nobody is marked as newly arrived . But you're so fucking stupid that even evidence isn't enough for you. Albania back then also had a small population. And even when marked as newly arrived, in many cases they came from other parts of Kosovo or from neighboring villages. In this territory you have no important history, you just claim some medieval empire that was multi cultural , battle of Kosova was coalition of various Balkan states in which Albanians also took part, there are epic poetry and songs about the battle in Albanian which proves the continuity of an Albanian popualtion in these territories. The knight who killed the sultan is known as Milosh Kopiliq in Albanian