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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    Were you born in Poland or already in Germany?
    I was born in Poland and later moved to Germany

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    Wikipedia says the following:
    On 4 October 1945, the decisive land border of Poland was established west of the 1945 line,[8][101] and the city was renamed to its historic Polish name Szczecin, but the area excluded the Police area, the Oder river itself, and the port of Szczecin, which remained under Soviet administration.[101] The Oder river was handed over to Polish administration in September 1946, followed by the port between February 1946 and May 1954.
    So it's in agreement with your article that in the beginning the Soviets didn't allow even the Poles to settle there, but I don't know how it compares to other regions that were given to Poland. Do you know if the Soviets initially didn't allow Poles to settle in other regions besides Stettin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Æðelfriþ View Post
    Do you know if the Soviets initially didn't allow Poles to settle in other regions besides Stettin?
    As far as I know there were no such restrictions. Also many Poles were already there as forced labourers during WW2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katarzyna View Post
    I was born in Poland and later moved to Germany
    Why do you identify as only Polish and deny your German heritage?

    I was reading your posts before where you wanted to be 100% Slavic.

    And you decided not to display "German" permission group on this forum.

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    I feel sorry for our ancestors, the naive Soviet people who gave half of Germany to the Poles, who are behaving extremely unworthily today. Russians have learned this lesson for centuries. The German part of Poland should return to the borders of Germany. The historical error must be corrected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vjatych View Post
    I feel sorry for our ancestors, naive Soviet people who gave half of Germany to people who behave extremely unworthily today. Russians have learned this lesson for centuries. The German part of Poland should return to the borders of Germany. The historical error must be corrected.
    So "Soviet people" were your ancestors? And Russians always brag how the communists were Jews etc.

    Half of Germany is a little bit of a stretch isn't it? Especially since none of this was originally a German land (including Połabie BTW).
    Germany BTW was supposed not to exist after WW2, so hardly a problem.

    And let's add that the Kresy made up around half of the Second Republic, so giving them back to Poland would solve one injustice.

    Russia should instead think of correcting the mistake of taking over lands that belonged to 100 different ethnicities, starting with the Caucasus, Karelia and Volga-Ural region, throughout Siberia and ending with giving back what it stole from China (Manchuria). But that's another story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    Why do you identify as only Polish and deny your German heritage?

    I was reading your posts before where you wanted to be 100% Slavic.

    And you decided not to display "German" permission group on this forum.
    Because one thing is my ancestry which is predominantly Polish and therefore Slavic and the other thing is my political opinion and those two shouldn’t be confused with each other.
    I dislike many Slavic countries, particularly Russia and Belarus (but not all the people living there just the countries and their governments) but I would never like to travel there or have anything to do with them. I also dislike the Polish PIS part but unfortunately I share some genetics with most of the people I dislike. Yet I see TA as a genetical forum rather than a political one where my genetical origin counts more than my personal opinion.
    In some political groups where I’m a member I don’t even reveal that I’m any kind of Slav and just say that I’m German because that’s where I grew up and I have the German citizenship. So it’s what matters in that context.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thatoneton View Post
    So "Soviet people" were your ancestors? And Russians always brag how the communists were Jews etc.

    Half of Germany is a little bit of a stretch isn't it? Especially since none of this was originally a German land (including Połabie BTW).
    Germany BTW was supposed not to exist after WW2, so hardly a problem.

    And let's add that the Kresy made up around half of the Second Republic, so giving them back to Poland would solve one injustice.

    Russia should instead think of correcting the mistake of taking over lands that belonged to 100 different ethnicities, starting with the Caucasus, Karelia and Volga-Ural region, throughout Siberia and ending with giving back what it stole from China (Manchuria). But that's another story.
    1) The Jews were Bolsheviks who killed the tsar. Under Stalin, there was not a single Jew left in the government. 2) The Russians themselves conquered and mastered all our territories. Why on earth should we abandon the Volga? The Volga has been called the Russian river for centuries. Siberia was not inhabited. The Yakuts are the same newcomers to Siberia as the Russians. The Yakuts massacred all the Yukaghirs (the indigenous inhabitants of Eastern Siberia) for two hundred years. The Yukaghirs were very happy to see the Russians. Thanks to the Russians, these people are still alive. 3) Poland received German lands with Russian hands and blood. Let it be not half, but 1/3. What you got from Russian hands by biting them today must be returned. Life is a very insidious thing, everything can turn very sharply against you. Meanness is never forgotten.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katarzyna View Post
    Because one thing is my ancestry which is predominantly Polish and therefore Slavic and the other thing is my political opinion and those two shouldn’t be confused with each other.
    I dislike many Slavic countries, particularly Russia and Belarus (but not all the people living there just the countries and their governments) but I would never like to travel there or have anything to do with them. I also dislike the Polish PIS part but unfortunately I share some genetics with most of the people I dislike. Yet I see TA as a genetical forum rather than a political one where my genetical origin counts more than my personal opinion.
    In some political groups where I’m a member I don’t even reveal that I’m any kind of Slav and just say that I’m German because that’s where I grew up and I have the German citizenship. So it’s what matters in that context.
    If you have 1/4 German ancestry then you should display it on your profile. Otherwise, it is deceiving people about who you are, in my opinion.

    As for politics - do you dislike also AfD in Germany? Which German party or parties do you support?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    Were you born in Poland or already in Germany?
    I was born in Poland but moved to Germany when I was very young. So I attended my whole school time in Germany and later went to the Netherlands for higher education.

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