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    Quote Originally Posted by Eurafricanid View Post
    The model for whiteness used here was bad, IMO, the Basque and the South Asian samples were weak, I also added a strong Caucasian component (CHG) and Sardinian (outside of the white category, since that's only for Northern Europeans, I guess) since they're pretty pure (almost 100% EEF) see below v

    Target: Sardinian
    Distance: 3.3991% / 0.03399129

    81.4 Anatolian_Neolithic_Farmer
    13.0 Western_Hunter-Gatherer
    4.8 Yamnaya_Pastoralist
    0.4 Ancient_Ancestral_South_Indian
    0.4 Morocco_Iberomaurusian


    I also added Iberomaurusian, since North Africans are Iberomaurusian + Iberian + SSA + (later) Arab (and more SSA).

    Code:
    White:Latvian,0.1354494,0.122473,0.0887742,0.08947 1,0.043208,0.0340246,0.0125966,0.0140762,-0.002168,-0.0368842,-0.0035728,-0.0138178,0.0232208,0.031378,-0.010559,0.0040572,0.0027118,-0.0003802,0.0016088,0.0043022,-0.0027952,-0.0057128,0.0090708,-0.0093264,0.0026346
    White:Basque_Gipuzkoa_Southwest,0.131207,0.1493751,0.0579394,0.012274,0.05657,0.0019015,-0.0023714,0.0006712,0.0268855,0.0422788,-0.0058606,0.0100411,-0.0223531,-0.0195175,0.0152994,0.0049662,-0.0026907,0.0025337,-0.0018054,-0.001171,0.0102433,0.0023606,-0.010465,-0.0099685,0.0019158
    White:Irish,0.1333605,0.1340977,0.0611689,0.048864 2,0.037788,0.0193517,0.0032928,0.0047129,0.0035683 ,0.0029265,-0.0069712,0.0058395,-0.0141892,-0.0140763,0.0259353,0.0052146,-0.0111456,0.0018944,0.0005974,0.0017758,0.0051145, 0.0012787,0.0002929,0.0144074,0.0006607
    Sardinian,0.1216872,0.1672855,0.0284897,-0.0506523,0.060151,-0.0221337,-0.0039523,0.0024964,0.0415743,0.077351,-5.9e-05,0.0166487,-0.0286645,-0.012974,-0.013572,-0.0030013,0.0114027,-0.0013475,0.0016798,-0.0129947,-0.0021212,-0.0011018,-0.010084,-0.021383,0.0003375
    Mongol:Han,0.0206952,-0.4507105,-0.0082967,-0.0651579,0.0780846,0.0374475,0.0029055,-0.004804,-0.0150232,-0.0031146,-0.0495875,-0.0070573,0.0072707,-0.0081072,-0.0043305,0.0012535,0.0017542,-0.0008638,-0.0020455,-0.0102206,0.0122397,0.0069582,0.0141063,-0.0012925,-0.0022315
    Mongol:Nganassan,0.0476917,-0.4066181,0.1557885,0.0023902,-0.1594452,-0.0882129,0.0285066,0.0433367,0.0310876,0.0128477, 0.1028569,0.0094115,-0.0040734,-0.0261619,-0.0219731,-0.0123307,-0.0010952,0.0134165,0.0268365,-0.0008505,0.0431363,-0.0118954,0.0336096,0.0003977,0.0135556
    Negro:Yoruba,-0.6300625,0.0625011,0.022113,0.0167079,0.0005035,0 .0124741,-0.044417,0.0477673,-0.0488813,0.0327694,0.0046205,0.0007904,0.0230561, 0.0009509,0.0125232,-0.0096067,0.0070763,0.0004491,0.006022,-0.00299,0.0015542,0.0023156,-0.0017592,-0.0004711,-0.0004246
    Australian,-0.0421145,-0.235095,-0.213639,0.234499,0.1384875,-0.3402465,-0.0031725,0.0074995,-0.0082835,0.00082,-0.006171,0.001199,0.0008175,-0.002684,-0.0035285,-0.000133,0.0100395,0.002027,-0.0023885,0.0060655,0.003556,-0.000371,-0.0033895,0.0012655,-0.0045505
    Caucasian:Georgian_Megr,0.109498,0.1289722,-0.0561156,-0.0468996,-0.0406844,-0.0081438,0.0102464,-0.0075226,-0.0665112,-0.0231438,0.0002598,0.013668,-0.028959,0.0066888,0.003176,-0.0263056,0.0094138,-0.0056756,-0.0107596,0.018709,0.0129272,0.0029432,-0.0010108,-0.0091578,-0.0024908
    South_Asian:Tamil_Sri_Lanka,0.037296,-0.088351,-0.1738149,0.1134816,-0.0759423,0.0611421,-0.0018252,0.014261,0.0474904,0.0309315,-0.0029067,-0.0002747,-0.0015311,0.0056059,-0.0078266,-0.0065366,0.0028771,-8.88e-05,-0.0001216,0.0030097,0.0037143,0.0006554,-0.0006408,-7.63e-05,-0.0051491
    Iberomaurusian:Morocco_Iberomaurusian,-0.189857,0.0812424,-0.0233816,-0.085918,0.026897,-0.0562244,-0.0688578,0.0189222,0.1556838,0.0023324,0.0228318,-0.0328806,0.0757278,-0.0494342,0.0694074,-0.035799,0.007719,-0.0649408,-0.1416618,0.0393438,-0.037908,-0.1254826,0.0707936,-0.0144358,0.0191596
    Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
    Distance: 4.3026% / 0.04302650
    52.6 White
    18.4 Sardinian
    14.4 Caucasian
    5.8 Iberomaurusian
    4.4 Mongol
    4.4 Negro

    Code:
    Distance to:	Alnortedelsur_scaled
    0.09867903	White:Basque_Gipuzkoa_Southwest
    0.11004213	White:Irish
    0.12822910	Sardinian
    0.16856359	White:Latvian
    0.17010660	Caucasian:Georgian_Megr
    0.34375630	South_Asian:Tamil_Sri_Lanka
    0.40994241	Iberomaurusian:Morocco_Iberomaurusian
    0.58050615	Mongol:Han
    0.59154796	Mongol:Nganassan
    0.61977269	Australian
    0.71170826	Negro:Yoruba
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vjatych View Post
    The Sami live in Northern Europe - Norway, Sweden, Finland. Southern Europeans care too much about the Asians of Eastern Europe. But you don't care about your Middle Eastern and African identity.
    I think Saami are Europeans, they are since thousands of years in Europe. At least as long as the fully caucasoid scandos if not even longer, right? They are native europeans, therefore "white".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carpatz View Post
    Thank God I'm a black-ass Romanian. I'm also thankful that black-assed Mediterranean civilizations were magnanimous enough to bring light to the albino starving tundra monkeys.
    Go brag to the natives. Only for them you are a white civilizer. For Russians, you're just a gypsy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortimer View Post
    I think Saami are Europeans, they are since thousands of years in Europe. At least as long as the fully caucasoid scandos if not even longer, right? They are native europeans, therefore "white".
    If the Sami are Europeans, then the Tatars are also Europeans and Udmurts and Chuvash and Turks. Where is this European/non-European border?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vjatych View Post
    Go brag to the natives. Only for them you are a white civilizer. For Russians, you're just a gypsy.
    *black-assed civilizer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vjatych View Post
    If the Sami are Europeans, then the Tatars are also Europeans and Udmurts and Chuvash and Turks. Where is this European/non-European border?
    Those other groups might also be "European" i think some populations are "borderline" or could go both ways, european or non-european... What do you think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vjatych View Post
    If the Sami are Europeans, then the Tatars are also Europeans and Udmurts and Chuvash and Turks. Where is this European/non-European border?
    The Finnish Swede has set the border. It changes from time to time when she acquires some new lakes in her castle eastwards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vjatych View Post
    If the Sami are Europeans, then the Tatars are also Europeans and Udmurts and Chuvash and Turks. Where is this European/non-European border?
    They have non european identity, most of them are muslim except chuvash.

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