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    Quote Originally Posted by Ugo View Post
    It is better to be a Uralian than such a "Caucasoid".
    You are both things so feel privileged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HectorOfTroy View Post
    In quotes? We are, the Caucasoid facial structure originated in Europe and Middle East, not Northern East Asia. As well as most of the Y DNA and mtDNA as well.
    So EHG R1a is from the Middle East? Or is it from Siberia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ugo View Post
    So EHG R1a is from the Middle East? Or is it from Siberia?
    Siberia is a horizontally massive country which has parts in Eurasia and East Asia. R1 is Northern Central Asia/Eurasia, not East Asia like N.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HectorOfTroy View Post
    R1 is Northern Central Asia/Eurasia, not East Asia like N.
    Southern Siberia is Lake Baikal. These are the first Europeoid

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ugo View Post
    Southern Siberia is Lake Baikal. These are the first Europeoid
    R1 is not Lake Baikal, it is thought to be Uralic or originating in Kazakhstan, although basal R (Malta Boy) is Lake Baikal.
    Still, even as a Russian you are still much closer genetically (autosomal) to the average Levantine than the average East Asian (Same with almost all Europeans except maybe Sami and some other fringe groups).

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    At least some subclades of J2 and G are definitely White, while not all clades of R1a and R1b are so.

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    Mine is European because it is a mutation that occurs in Europe from other mutations that also occur in Europe, so it could only have happened in the leftovers of Asia, like the rest regardless of whether some are a majority to others.

    And remember that no one from the north will decide what is and what is not.
    https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-BY7449/
    E-V22 - E-BY7449 - E-BY7566 - E-FT155550
    According to oral family tradition E-FT155550 comes from a deserter of Napoleon's troops (1808-1813) who stayed in Spain and changed his surname.

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    My zodiac sign is Taurus and my last name sounds German. About as much chances to be white than with R1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HectorOfTroy View Post
    R1 is not Lake Baikal, it is thought to be Uralic or originating in Kazakhstan, although basal R (Malta Boy) is Lake Baikal.
    Still, even as a Russian you are still much closer genetically (autosomal) to the average Levantine than the average East Asian (Same with almost all Europeans except maybe Sami and some other fringe groups).
    Distance to: Russian_Yaroslavl
    0.21858758 Lebanese_Druze
    0.26922457 Tatar_Siberian
    0.29934313 Tatar_Siberian_Zabolotniye
    0.35421439 Kazakh
    0.43021242 Nenets
    0.45910734 Mongol_Xinjiang
    0.46593932 Mongolian
    0.47255464 Buryat
    0.50723398 Mongol_Inner_Mongolia
    0.52657800 Mongol_IMAR
    0.56168485 Mongola
    0.58766528 Manchu_Jinzhou
    0.59237311 Nganassan
    0.59270860 Manchu_Liaoning
    0.59753590 Manchu_Bijie
    0.59833757 Manchu_Jinsha
    0.59918465 Mongol_Bijie

    Distance to: Russian_Voronez
    0.20528286 Lebanese_Druze
    0.28346137 Tatar_Siberian
    0.31487802 Tatar_Siberian_Zabolotniye
    0.36710711 Kazakh
    0.44560972 Nenets
    0.47260763 Mongol_Xinjiang
    0.47946602 Mongolian
    0.48652432 Buryat
    0.52004762 Mongol_Inner_Mongolia
    0.53934124 Mongol_IMAR
    0.57373487 Mongola
    0.59890432 Manchu_Jinzhou
    0.60391991 Manchu_Liaoning
    0.60702160 Nganassan
    0.60826415 Manchu_Bijie
    0.60905607 Manchu_Jinsha
    0.60958874 Mongol_Bijie

    Distance to: Russian_Tver
    0.21290655 Lebanese_Druze
    0.26911944 Tatar_Siberian
    0.29975134 Tatar_Siberian_Zabolotniye
    0.35348894 Kazakh
    0.43082144 Nenets
    0.45867548 Mongol_Xinjiang
    0.46582347 Mongolian
    0.47277604 Buryat
    0.50627956 Mongol_Inner_Mongolia
    0.52564836 Mongol_IMAR
    0.56020945 Mongola
    0.58562412 Manchu_Jinzhou
    0.59063910 Manchu_Liaoning
    0.59288528 Nganassan
    0.59510404 Manchu_Bijie
    0.59598104 Manchu_Jinsha
    0.59655614 Mongol_Bijie

    Distance to: Russian_Smolensk
    0.20968487 Lebanese_Druze
    0.28871311 Tatar_Siberian
    0.32044306 Tatar_Siberian_Zabolotniye
    0.37151577 Kazakh
    0.45154838 Nenets
    0.47678402 Mongol_Xinjiang
    0.48377848 Mongolian
    0.49100964 Buryat
    0.52390154 Mongol_Inner_Mongolia
    0.54314926 Mongol_IMAR
    0.57723984 Mongola
    0.60201244 Manchu_Jinzhou
    0.60699996 Manchu_Liaoning
    0.61123600 Manchu_Bijie
    0.61200609 Manchu_Jinsha
    0.61255653 Mongol_Bijie
    0.61268738 Nganassan

    Distance to: Russian_Ryazan
    0.20438754 Lebanese_Druze
    0.27050633 Tatar_Siberian
    0.30191366 Tatar_Siberian_Zabolotniye
    0.35468252 Kazakh
    0.43331574 Nenets
    0.46038869 Mongol_Xinjiang
    0.46743001 Mongolian
    0.47451162 Buryat
    0.50805872 Mongol_Inner_Mongolia
    0.52750851 Mongol_IMAR
    0.56219599 Mongola
    0.58759827 Manchu_Jinzhou
    0.59261194 Manchu_Liaoning
    0.59543445 Nganassan
    0.59709375 Manchu_Bijie
    0.59790881 Manchu_Jinsha
    0.59860676 Mongol_Bijie

    Distance to: Russian_Pskov
    0.22153833 Lebanese_Druze
    0.28532786 Tatar_Siberian
    0.31512647 Tatar_Siberian_Zabolotniye
    0.36955796 Kazakh
    0.44571934 Nenets
    0.47417577 Mongol_Xinjiang
    0.48129252 Mongolian
    0.48792796 Buryat
    0.52175742 Mongol_Inner_Mongolia
    0.54106077 Mongol_IMAR
    0.57559763 Mongola
    0.60076589 Manchu_Jinzhou
    0.60578014 Manchu_Liaoning
    0.60746690 Nganassan
    0.61004801 Manchu_Bijie
    0.61091197 Manchu_Jinsha
    0.61150775 Mongol_Bijie

    Distance to: Russian_Pinezhsky
    0.22769484 Tatar_Siberian
    0.23784513 Lebanese_Druze
    0.25316874 Tatar_Siberian_Zabolotniye
    0.31660521 Kazakh
    0.38335121 Nenets
    0.41969087 Mongol_Xinjiang
    0.42714714 Mongolian
    0.43298424 Buryat
    0.46867836 Mongol_Inner_Mongolia
    0.48804314 Mongol_IMAR
    0.52389224 Mongola
    0.54681385 Nganassan
    0.55114445 Manchu_Jinzhou
    0.55625156 Manchu_Liaoning
    0.56160957 Manchu_Bijie
    0.56235412 Manchu_Jinsha
    0.56361465 Mongol_Bijie

    Distance to: Russian_Pinega
    0.22994359 Tatar_Siberian
    0.23811527 Lebanese_Druze
    0.25577787 Tatar_Siberian_Zabolotniye
    0.31805189 Kazakh
    0.38597610 Nenets
    0.42096184 Mongol_Xinjiang
    0.42837412 Mongolian
    0.43436654 Buryat
    0.46964838 Mongol_Inner_Mongolia
    0.48892632 Mongol_IMAR
    0.52450514 Mongola
    0.54913856 Nganassan
    0.55139742 Manchu_Jinzhou
    0.55652392 Manchu_Liaoning
    0.56200615 Manchu_Bijie
    0.56277412 Manchu_Jinsha
    0.56390028 Mongol_Bijie

    Distance to: Russian_Orel
    0.20395513 Lebanese_Druze
    0.27834499 Tatar_Siberian
    0.31006547 Tatar_Siberian_Zabolotniye
    0.36179894 Kazakh
    0.44118006 Nenets
    0.46738801 Mongol_Xinjiang
    0.47438780 Mongolian
    0.48160761 Buryat
    0.51486468 Mongol_Inner_Mongolia
    0.53421112 Mongol_IMAR
    0.56859552 Mongola
    0.59376176 Manchu_Jinzhou
    0.59877849 Manchu_Liaoning
    0.60272920 Nganassan
    0.60324493 Manchu_Bijie
    0.60403893 Manchu_Jinsha
    0.60460427 Mongol_Bijie


    Distance to: Russian_Leshukonsky
    0.20612651 Tatar_Siberian
    0.23059926 Tatar_Siberian_Zabolotniye
    0.24100913 Lebanese_Druze
    0.29659798 Kazakh
    0.36146436 Nenets
    0.39948590 Mongol_Xinjiang
    0.40708005 Mongolian
    0.41263406 Buryat
    0.44954251 Mongol_Inner_Mongolia
    0.46906963 Mongol_IMAR
    0.50573671 Mongola
    0.52595684 Nganassan
    0.53389526 Manchu_Jinzhou
    0.53912182 Manchu_Liaoning
    0.54495044 Manchu_Bijie
    0.54567277 Manchu_Jinsha
    0.54715206 Mongol_Bijie


    Distance to: Russian_Kursk
    0.20658935 Lebanese_Druze
    0.27770924 Tatar_Siberian
    0.30895426 Tatar_Siberian_Zabolotniye
    0.36172305 Kazakh
    0.44038268 Nenets
    0.46723987 Mongol_Xinjiang
    0.47432124 Mongolian
    0.48151783 Buryat
    0.51472042 Mongol_Inner_Mongolia
    0.53405587 Mongol_IMAR
    0.56843359 Mongola
    0.59357715 Manchu_Jinzhou
    0.59856124 Manchu_Liaoning
    0.60248399 Nganassan
    0.60299503 Manchu_Bijie
    0.60379337 Manchu_Jinsha
    0.60436113 Mongol_Bijie

    Distance to: Russian_Krasnoborsky
    0.22274875 Lebanese_Druze
    0.23949943 Tatar_Siberian
    0.26791944 Tatar_Siberian_Zabolotniye
    0.32628697 Kazakh
    0.39896024 Nenets
    0.43058859 Mongol_Xinjiang
    0.43786061 Mongolian
    0.44424033 Buryat
    0.47916994 Mongol_Inner_Mongolia
    0.49851509 Mongol_IMAR
    0.53388500 Mongola
    0.56047735 Manchu_Jinzhou
    0.56179532 Nganassan
    0.56558724 Manchu_Liaoning
    0.57060931 Manchu_Bijie
    0.57135528 Manchu_Jinsha
    0.57233999 Mongol_Bijie

    Distance to: Russian_Kostroma
    0.21775921 Lebanese_Druze
    0.24907822 Tatar_Siberian
    0.27805497 Tatar_Siberian_Zabolotniye
    0.33547901 Kazakh
    0.40945110 Nenets
    0.44026226 Mongol_Xinjiang
    0.44744708 Mongolian
    0.45421403 Buryat
    0.48844142 Mongol_Inner_Mongolia
    0.50786911 Mongol_IMAR
    0.54289760 Mongola
    0.56904637 Manchu_Jinzhou
    0.57260375 Nganassan
    0.57411353 Manchu_Liaoning
    0.57897874 Manchu_Bijie
    0.57977071 Manchu_Jinsha
    0.58061284 Mongol_Bijie

    Distance to: Russian_Kaluga
    0.21227410 Lebanese_Druze
    0.28167278 Tatar_Siberian
    0.31250371 Tatar_Siberian_Zabolotniye
    0.36571644 Kazakh
    0.44334750 Nenets
    0.47081418 Mongol_Xinjiang
    0.47775579 Mongolian
    0.48462276 Buryat
    0.51834616 Mongol_Inner_Mongolia
    0.53764195 Mongol_IMAR
    0.57217207 Mongola
    0.59742234 Manchu_Jinzhou
    0.60242300 Manchu_Liaoning
    0.60486323 Nganassan
    0.60681646 Manchu_Bijie
    0.60761401 Manchu_Jinsha
    0.60822655 Mongol_Bijie

    Distance to: Russian_Belgorod
    0.20114679 Lebanese_Druze
    0.28399249 Tatar_Siberian
    0.31600362 Tatar_Siberian_Zabolotniye
    0.36698097 Kazakh
    0.44684649 Nenets
    0.47272545 Mongol_Xinjiang
    0.47947531 Mongolian
    0.48675408 Buryat
    0.51990712 Mongol_Inner_Mongolia
    0.53922960 Mongol_IMAR
    0.57346186 Mongola
    0.59853853 Manchu_Jinzhou
    0.60347870 Manchu_Liaoning
    0.60790487 Manchu_Bijie
    0.60810128 Nganassan
    0.60869029 Manchu_Jinsha
    0.60920392 Mongol_Bijie


    That checks out. You need very high european admixture for the North (Eur)asian groups to get closer than the Levantines.

    The Siberian Tatar is right in that border so that in some Asian-shifted Russians they are closer than Levantines.

    Target: Tatar_Siberian
    Distance: 3.7300% / 0.03729988

    26.0 Nganasan
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    18.2 EHG
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