Israel VS palestine - a new round

[TheForeigner]

Balkans and east-central europe is the region where first "Turkey" existed. Its for sure our (too) place.

It was stolen land and you won't ever get it back. You will never be that strong again. Maybe Kurds and Arab refugees will inherit what you now have left.

[Hektor12]

It was stolen land and you won't ever get it back. You will never be that strong again.

Again idiotic "stolen land" narrative.

You cant steal lands. You have a maximum life of some 100 years or so.

[TheForeigner]

Again idiotic "stolen land" narrative.

You cant steal lands. You have a maximum life of some 100 years or so.

Fact is Turks came there uninvited into other peoples' lands and did nothing to improve the infrastructure or economy. Turks made worse everything they touched. You were only good at war making for a while and you built a lot of mosques. That's it. After your peak, you died a long and agonizing death as the 'sick man of Europe', only kept alive with the help of the British and French. Without the West's help the Russians would have conquered most of Turkey and than you would bitch about stolen land of 'true believers'.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

To say that the Ottomans were a cultural civilization is clearly untrue. They were a military power. The Arabs and Persians are the historical peoples of the Middle East who were once not only military powers but cultural powers. They shaped the world alongside other great civilizations. The Ottoman cultural legacy pales in comparison (if it wasn't obvious, the Ottomans are a replica of Arab\Persian culture and tradition). And I'm not saying this because I sympathize more with some than with others, not least because the Turks are now more secularized, but just to ratify the historical truth.

This thread has already been derailed anyway, just read the posts by some of the great visionaries who think that Iran is not involved in this, maybe they think that Hamas has manufactured around five thousand missiles in improvised laboratories in bathrooms and kitchens.

[Incal]

It was stolen land and you won't ever get it back. You will never be that strong again. Maybe Kurds and Arab refugees will inherit what you now have left.

I have observed that according to islamic "morals" it's perfectly fine to claim what you have stolen as yours (muslims do the same with southern Spain). This is a concept that totally conflicts with christian values.

[Hektor12]

you would bitch about stolen land of 'true believers'.

How do you know??? How many times in your life youve seen Turks crying "YÖÜ STÖLÖN ÖÜR LÖNDS!!!" "YÖÜ GÖNÖCÜDÜD ÜS!!!" ???

You should really stop thinking that everybody are like yourself mentally.

[Hektor12]

I have observed that according to islamic "morals" it's perfectly fine to claim what you have stolen as yours

Looking at new world, likely Christian morals are different. You guys are superior to us, i admit.

[TheForeigner]

I have observed that according to islamic "morals" it's perfectly fine to claim what you have stolen as yours (muslims do the same with southern Spain). This is a concept that totally conflicts with christian values.

Many years ago some Syrian guy told me online that the Balkans and the Iberian Peninsula were once Muslim lands and they will be first to be conquered or reconquered by Muslims, along with the rest of Europe. I don't know how many Muslims think and talk like that, but I suspect it is not rare.

[TheForeigner]

How do you know??? How many times in your life youve seen Turks crying "YÖÜ STÖLÖN ÖÜR LÖNDS!!!" "YÖÜ GÖNÖCÜDÜD ÜS!!!" ???

You should really stop thinking that everybody are like yourself mentally.

So you would like to be Russian subjects instead of having your own country?

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

This thread has already been derailed anyway, just read the posts by some of the great visionaries who think that Iran is not involved in this, maybe they think that Hamas has manufactured around five thousand missiles in improvised laboratories in bathrooms and kitchens.

Dude, tell me about those missiles; what are they specifically? One missile is not the same as another. Do you think they can actually blow up buildings? There is a long history of missles getting through the 'Iron Dome' and they rarely do damage or kill.

Yes, Iran supports Hamas but Hamas has been prepared a long time for conflict because of their situation and what kicked off this attack has nothing to do with Iran. The fact is there is a specific reason why there was an attack and I presented that reason.

None of you were aware of it because your media didn't tell you what happened days before. Hamas even named the operation after the mosque.

btw, Putin... I'm surprised you didn't randomly bring him up again.