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    Post Basic Color Terminology: An Analogy to Race

    In my time on The Apricity Forum, and beyond for that matter, I’ve found that many take issue with my perception of race. For this reason, I thought it’d be ameliorative to explain my position by comparing race to basic color terms.

    To begin,
    color terms can be organized into a coherent hierarchy and there are a limited number of universal basic color terms which begin to be used by individual cultures in a relatively fixed order. This order is defined in stages I-VIII.

    Belonging to stage VII,
    English contains eleven basic color terms: 'black', 'white', 'red', 'green', 'yellow', 'blue', 'brown', 'orange', 'pink', 'purple', and 'grey'”.

    Conversely, in stage VIII,
    Italian, Russian and Hebrew have twelve basic color terms, each distinguishing blue and light blue. A Russian will make the same red / pink and orange / brown distinctions, but will also make a further distinction between sinii and goluboi, which English speakers would call dark and light blue. To Russian speakers, sinii and goluboi are as separate as red and pink, or orange and brown”.

    Seeing as stage VIII distinguishes between dark blue and light blue – while stage VII languages don’t – which color term hierarchy should we follow? The one with more or less color distinctions.

    Similar to color term hierarchies, human racial typologies are based on observable distinctions.
    European medieval models of race generally mixed Classical ideas with the notion that humanity as a whole was descended from Shem, Ham and Japheth, the three sons of Noah, producing distinct Semitic (Asiatic), Hamitic (African), and Japhetic (Indo-European) peoples”.

    In contrast, German anthropologist
    Johann Friedrich Blumenbach divided the human species into five races in 1779, later founded on crania research (description of human skulls), and called them:
    • the Caucasian or white race. Blumenbach was the first to use this term for Europeans, but the term would later be reinterpreted to also include Middle Easterners and South Asians.
    • the Mongolian or yellow race, including all East Asians.
    • the Malayan or brown race, including Southeast Asians and Pacific Islanders.
    • the Ethiopian or black race, including all sub-Saharan Africans.
    • the American or red race, including all Native Americans
    ”.

    Today, however, many people believe genetic clustering is the best way to infer races.
    Clusters of individuals are often geographically structured. For example, when clustering a population of East Asians and Europeans, each group will likely form its own respective cluster based on similar allele frequencies. In this way, clusters can have a correlation with traditional concepts of race and self-identified ancestry…[even though ] genetic clusters do not typically match socially defined racial groups; many commonly understood races may not be sorted into the same genetic cluster, and many genetic clusters are made up of individuals who would have distinct racial identities”.
    Moreover, “there is more genetic variation within self-identified racial groups than between them”.

    Insomuch as race is analogous with basic color terminology, then it would go without saying that, just like color, races are better categorized along observable characteristics such as phenotype and morphology, considered holistically.

    The color brown for instance is approximately 58.8% red, 29.4% green, and 0% blue. Rather than searching the RGB code for the color brown though, one knows the hue simply by looking at it, although the shade may be categorized differently from ‘brown’ depending on the model being employed.
    By the same token, rather than administering a DNA test, a person with dark skin, tightly curled hair, eyes dark brown with yellowish cornea; a nose more or less broad and flat; and large teeth", would most likely be categorized as Negroid.

    How about Melanesians though. They kind of look Negroid, should they be lumped together with Sub-Saharan Africans? Under a “stage VII” framework, the answer would be yes, but under “stage VIII”, no. Nevertheless, I’ve noticed that many users become enraged at the notion of using a typology different from that with which they’re familiar.

    In any case, race is different from ethnicity, heritage, nationality, lineage, etcetera, as the latter dimensions are based on ancestry, citizenship, and other masked characteristics.

    I assume some will contend that these parts of our identity can be observed through food, customs, tradition, and so on, yet based on looks alone, a level of uncertainty arises concerning how to group an individual. That’s the beauty of race.

    Under the framework I’m outlining, I believe race should be a quick, short-hand benchmark used to categorize individuals, whereas genetics should be used “for characterizing the general structure of genetic variation among human populations, to contribute to the study of ancestral origins, evolutionary history, and precision medicine”.

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    What about the frequency of the electromagnetic waves ?...

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    Quote Originally Posted by renaissance12 View Post
    What about the frequency of the electromagnetic waves ?...
    Hi, renaissance12

    You’ll have to be more specific. What about the frequency of the electromagnetic waves?

    Keeping with the analogy of race and basic color terms, the frequency of the electromagnetic waves would be similar to genes seeing as they “code” for the visual perception of various colors.

    The color blue has an electromagnetic frequency of 620–670 THz. Stage VIII color hierarchies would see the lower end of this range as one distinct color (a lighter blue) and the upper end as another color (a darker blue). Meanwhile, stage VII basic color hierarchies (like that of English), see the entire range as just ‘blue’, plain and simple.

    To further complicate things, most stage IV languages continue to colexify blue and green. The Chinese character 青, for instance, (pronounced qīng in Mandarin and ao in Japanese) has a meaning that covers both blue and green.

    Which stage of basic color classification is best? Which racial typology is best? Is one better than another, or can the various models simultaneously possess merit?


    Above infrared in frequency comes visible light. The Sun emits its peak power in the visible region, although integrating the entire emission power spectrum through all wavelengths shows that the Sun emits slightly more infrared than visible light. By definition, visible light is the part of the EM spectrum the human eye is the most sensitive to. Visible light (and near-infrared light) is typically absorbed and emitted by electrons in molecules and atoms that move from one energy level to another. This action allows the chemical mechanisms that underlie human vision and plant photosynthesis. The light that excites the human visual system is a very small portion of the electromagnetic spectrum. A rainbow shows the optical (visible) part of the electromagnetic spectrum; infrared (if it could be seen) would be located just beyond the red side of the rainbow whilst ultraviolet would appear just beyond the opposite violet end.

    Electromagnetic radiation with a wavelength between 380 nm and 760 nm (400–790 terahertz) is detected by the human eye and perceived as visible light. Other wavelengths, especially near infrared (longer than 760 nm) and ultraviolet (shorter than 380 nm) are also sometimes referred to as light, especially when the visibility to humans is not relevant. White light is a combination of lights of different wavelengths in the visible spectrum. Passing white light through a prism splits it up into the several colors of light observed in the visible spectrum between 400 nm and 780 nm.

    If radiation having a frequency in the visible region of the EM spectrum reflects off an object, say, a bowl of fruit, and then strikes the eyes, this results in visual perception of the scene. The brain's visual system processes the multitude of reflected frequencies into different shades and hues, and through this insufficiently-understood psychophysical phenomenon, most people perceive a bowl of fruit.

    At most wavelengths, however, the information carried by electromagnetic radiation is not directly detected by human senses. Natural sources produce EM radiation across the spectrum, and technology can also manipulate a broad range of wavelengths. Optical fiber transmits light that, although not necessarily in the visible part of the spectrum (it is usually infrared), can carry information. The modulation is similar to that used with radio waves.

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    The 'race question' is one of those things that people will never settle upon. Trying to 'solve' it is pseudo-intellectual masturbation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CountGrishnackh View Post
    The 'race question' is one of those things that people will never settle upon. Trying to 'solve' it is pseudo-intellectual masturbation.
    It's hard to "settle" the "race question" when no one can agree on the definition of 'race'. In everyday life, we look at someone and passively label them as 'white', 'Black', etcetera, yet these pseudo-intellectual masturbators are the ones who want to make race synonymous with genotype and DNA test results, even though fraternal twins have different genetic make-ups and appearances. That's why Latino families will oftentimes call the darkest kid in their family 'morenito' and the like.

    As for juxtaposing different racial typologies – although it make be pseudo-scientific – I wouldn't call it pseudo-intellectual. Nay, it is inherently intellectual; racial categorization involves the faculty of thinking, judging, abstract reasoning, and conceptual understanding.

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