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    R1a is an Indo-European vector, nothing to do with proto-Turkic speakers.

    Z93 for your region is specifically Iranic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demirkazık View Post
    Cladefinder has problems with the clades under R-M417, try Morley DNA it would probably give you R-Z283 or R-Z282. https://ytree.morleydna.com/extractFromAutosomal
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    Quote Originally Posted by eupator View Post
    R1a is an Indo-European vector, nothing to do with proto-Turkic speakers.

    Z93 for your region is specifically Iranic.
    That is cool. Croats and Serbs have iranian links according to some historians

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    Quote Originally Posted by eupator View Post
    R1a is an Indo-European vector, nothing to do with proto-Turkic speakers.

    Z93 for your region is specifically Iranic.
    It has contributed to the formation of Proto-Turkics, there is a reason you don't see R-YP1456 among Indo-Iranian speakers.

    Who were the OG Proto-Turkics then N-VL67, Q-L330, J-PH1795 ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Strategist View Post
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    Chose ISOGG tree not the Experimental one, and scroll down a bit so we can see which subclade you fall into.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demirkazık View Post
    It has contributed to the formation of Proto-Turkics, there is a reason you don't see R-YP1456 among Indo-Iranian speakers. Who were the OG Proto-Turkics then N-VL67, Q-L330, J-PH1795 ?

    You answered yourself.

    R1a being related to Altaic exists only in your fantasies.

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    haplogroups have nothing to do with a specific ethnic group


    speaking of r1a, there's indeed a high prevalence among altaic and kyrgyz people







    likewise r1b





    high frequency among turkmens, bashkir and chad peoples

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demirkazık View Post
    Chose ISOGG tree not the Experimental one, and scroll down a bit so we can see which subclade you fall into.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tk'es View Post
    haplogroups have nothing to do with a specific ethnic group speaking of r1a, there's indeed a high prevalence among altaic and kyrgyz people
    Long live brother, at one time the R1a-Z93 may've spoken Proto-Indo-Iranic but it was already a Proto-Yenisaian or Samoyedic speaking when it got absorbed into the Proto-Turkic genepool. If not for that we would encounter good amounts of Indo-European influence especially Proto-Indo-Iranic but we see almost none.
    I doubt anyone would argue to the Proto-Turkics getting their R-S23592 related Y-DNA from Cherkaskul, Tagar and Karasuk cultures, these cultures were either Samoyedic or Yeniseic speaking hence the huge amounts of Proto-Turkic borrowings in Proto-Samoyedic.

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    My subclade is very rare, usually people get df27 or u152

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