How would you redraw the European borders?

[Laudanum]

Germany: gains Austria, part of Switzerland, Netherlands (+Flanders),

No way.

[Caeruleus]

I mostly agree with Caeruleus' map. I'd make these basic border changes:

- Germany annexes Austria, whose people are ethnic Germans anyway. They also get East Prussia back, if they want the AIDS-infested shithole.
- Belgium, being a non-country, just stops existing. The Flemish part joins the Netherlands, and Wallonia to France.
- Greece gets back Constantinople and the European part of Turkey, burning all bridges on the Bosporus and shutting the Turks out of Europe.
- Serbia and Croatia get to partition the Balkans between themselves (except Slovenia, they can stay as they are). The non-country Macedonia will be split between Greece and Bulgaria, and the other abomination, Kosovo, will cease existing. The Muslim Kosovars can be deported to their spiritual homeland in the Middle-East.


Joey, are you contribute to this thread at all? You know, I usually like your posts, but now you're just being a wanker for the sake of it.

I would also reunite Czech Republic and Slovakia but only if they want to (because ethnically and culturally they are very close to each other)

[BiałaZemsta]

It has worked well with little trouble for some time now.

I would rather see Ireland part of the United Kingdom. It was ballsed up as was the union with the North American Colonies. Seems the pattern continues to this day.

I'd also have Scandinavia controled from either Denmark or Sweden.

Germany ought to have some land returned, least of all Prussia.

The rest I'll best leave to those who know a bit more than I.

Germany is lucky to even exist today considering all the trouble they cause when they are left alone. Today Prussia is not German, it is a well established part of Poland, realistically, and historically. Germany does not need Prussia, or deserve it. It belongs to Poland and thats how it should stay.

[Laudanum]

Germany is lucky to even exist today considering all the trouble they cause when they are left alone. Today Prussia is not German, it is a well established part of Poland, realistically, and historically. Germany does not need Prussia, or deserve it. It belongs to Poland and thats how it should stay.

Good old Germany vs. Poland arguments. I love discussions like this.

[Joe McCarthy]

Ohh you mean the US must have a say in all this matter !? In my world there is no place for 'merika USA Raus Come on its just a drawing Joe But I do think that there are too many countries in Europe.

Well, yours is the mentality of these Europe from Dublin to the Urals types so excuse me if I object to my country ceasing to exist.

[Unurautare]

But then Romania won't get those 12 extra points in every Eurovision contest...

We'll just make sure Italy and Spain will compensate with 12 points each instead.

[Logan]

Germany is lucky to even exist today considering all the trouble they cause when they are left alone. Today Prussia is not German, it is a well established part of Poland, realistically, and historically. Germany does not need Prussia, or deserve it. It belongs to Poland and thats how it should stay.

And the enclave, another bit of luck?

Good old Germany vs. Poland arguments. I love discussions like this.

More a difference of opinion.

[Phil75231]

In almost all cases, it's up to the locale's individuals to decide.

Exceptions: The leading secessions movement significantly promises to menace

* another nation's security after independence (including the nation they seceded from but especially a "third party" nation).

* the human rights of the territory they claim control over.

[Jake Featherston]

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#1: Northern Ireland reverts to Republic of Ireland

#2: Scottish national independence

#3: Welsh national independence

#4: Cornish national independence

#5: Breton national independence

#6: Galician national independence (in reference to the province of northwestern Spain)

#7: Flemmish national independence

#8: Wallonia reverts to France

#9: Corsican national independence (or reversion to Italy, depending on the outcome of a referendum)

#10): Constantinople/"Istanbul," and the whole of Eastern Thrace, reverts to Greece

#11: Dissolution of the so-called "Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus" (not shown on map, to the credit of the cartographic profession), and reversion of Cyprus to Greece

#12: Reversion of Kosovo to Serbia

#13: Reversion of Kola peninsula, and other majority-Finnish territories in Russia (as well as all formerly Finnish national territories presently occupied by Russia), to Finland

#14: Reversion of Kaliningrad to Germany

#15: Reversion of Austria to Germany

#16: Reversion of Greenland to the USA

[Unurautare]

#16: Reversion of Greenland to the USA

How about: Reversion of the USA to England,France and Spain.