Borreby

**Septentrion** · 06-27-2019, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by PaleoEuropean

The guy looks exactly like my Oldest brother

I guess then you are an Alpinoid. Borreby is a Nordish and Alpinoid phenotype, an overgrown West Alpinid with some East Baltic tendencies is a Borreby.

**PaleoEuropean** · 06-27-2019, 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by Septentrion

I guess then you are an Alpinoid. Borreby is a Nordish and Alpinoid phenotype, an overgrown West Alpinid with some East Baltic tendencies is a Borreby.

Borreby predates Alpinoid, it is Alpinized in some forms not Alpinid.

**PaleoEuropean** · 06-27-2019, 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by Pansarkamrat

he is some type of Eastern Europid not a pure borreby

**Septentrion** · 06-27-2019, 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by The Alchemist

I'm going to start a thread about Borreby subrace, cause i've always been fascinated by its look and history, though i have some doubts.
Why are is Borreby considered one of the nordic subraces, and not simply a variant of the alpinid race?? Does it have more features in common with the nordics or with the alpinids? I'd like you to post some pics of modern Borrebys, if it's possible.
I think the following icelandic girl is a good exemple of pred. Borreby (with other influences though):

Borreby are not Nordids, but many Borrebies do have Nordid admixture because their habitat overlaps that of Nordids and there has been a lot of interbreeding throughout history.

**Septentrion** · 06-27-2019, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by PaleoEuropean

Borreby predates Alpinoid, it is Alpinized in some forms not Alpinid.

I said Alpinoid not Alpinid! It looks like an overgrown Alpinid. The fact as we go through Germany. We see the transition from West Alpinid to Borreby going from south to north.

**PaleoEuropean** · 06-27-2019, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by Septentrion

I said Alpinoid not Alpinid! It looks like an overgrown Alpinid. The fact as we go through Germany. We see the transition from West Alpinid to Borreby going from south to north.

Borreby is a Baltic Hunter Gatherer phenotype it developed independently alongside Brunn and Paleo-Atlantid, all of those have dual or tri branches, but the branches don't necessarily mean they are directly related but that they evolved in a similar fashion from Cro-Magnons. The Cro-Magnoid phenotypes are independent in their purest forms, Nordid descends from Paleo-Atlantids, Brunns, Borrebys etc breeding with Indo-Aryans and other Asiatics, Nordid is a diluted hybrid.

**Folcwalding** · 06-30-2019, 08:15 AM

Originally Posted by The Alchemist

Very interesting, thank you. I was convincted that Borrebys were a result of a miscelation of alpinids with nordic subraces (like sub-nordids), and it's interesting to know that it's -maybe- just a coincidence.
But i think the general roundness of their faces and heads is very close to alpinids' one, isn't it?? Even if i think Borrebys are in general more robust than alpinids. So, what's the main difference between Borrebys and Alpinids?? I'd say height, pronounced chin, broader face...am i right?? And do Borrebys have strong cheekbones or not??

Coon coined the Borreby as a UP survivor. His metrics for the Borreby was a mess. He used it inadequate. An it didn't fit into the real Borreby skull as GTG already made loud and clear. The Ertebølle types were low vaulted and had a sloping forehead. The idea of UP survivors is idiotic (certainly with nowadays knowledge).

What still is real phenotype is a kind of North European brachycephalic phenotype. North European in the sense of tall and with light features (hair, eyes). And brachycephalic in the sense of a CI with more than 81. Combined with large headed as a whole. That's a recognizable and real existing phenotype.